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Re: Barstow-to-Vegas Race Alert

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From: Chuck Kring
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 1990 18:29
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In article <1990Sep13.043320.16684@nas.nasa.gov>,
ciotti@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Robert B. Ciotti) writes:
|> 
|> The reason that the BLM reinstated the race was because "no appreciative
|> cumulative effects" were caused by the race evidenced by fact in the 
|> more that one environmental impact statement that has been done on the 
|> race. No desert tortise fatalities were found at the close of last
|> years race, and many people were looking. But who wants to look at the
|> facts anyway.

I do.  Do you have references for 'more that one environmental impact 
statement' that has shown that "no appreciative cumulative effects" 
were caused by the race?  And that "No desert tortise fatalities were found 
at the close of last years race"?

|> What others have done, EARTH FIRST!ers two years ago, put caltrops 
|> (devices to puncture tires), on high speed sections (100mph+) of the
|> course, ever had a flat at 100? Nothing short of attempted murder.
|> They also did other things that were life threats. When I race,
|> I wonder if they will get me next? but I still race, ROT IN HELL YOU
|> MURDERING BASTARDS! They continue to try and sabotage the race, but with 
|> the help of the police and others, no one has been killed yet, only broken
|> bones.

Once again, do you have references that:

1) "EARTH FIRST!ers two years ago, put caltrops on high speed sections of 
   the course"

2) That this alleged sabotage has resulted in injury to any rider?

I'm not trying to attack or harp on you.  It's just that you have made 
several claims that go against everything else that I've heard about
the race, and so I'm skeptical.  If you want people to "look at the
facts anyway", you should give us reason to believe that these really
are facts.

Chuck Kring
kring@ic.Berkeley.EDU
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From: kring@washoe.Berkeley.EDU (Chuck Kring)
Newsgroups: ca.environment,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Barstow-to-Vegas Race Alert
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Date: 13 Sep 90 18:29:29 GMT
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