🚀 go-pugleaf

> > I thought you were anti-immigrant, but I didn't get the point about
> > inferior Finns. Well, for those who are anti-immigrant, they must
> > realize we got something in common in fixing the problems of the
> > Thirld World...
> 
> 20% unemployed (defacto) and they say we "urgently" need more people.
> According to CEO of Nokia those (unemployed) are of inferior quality
> (inspite of high education) and we need to give tax-breaks those
> educated foreigners that are willing to move to Finland.

It sounds to me like Saudi Arabia...

What is good for GM...is bad for the American people, in light for so
many SUVs out there polluting and threatening others on the road.
Perhaps the same for Nokia?

Anyway if you got such unemployment, isn't it time cut down the
workweek?

> 
> > Scandinavia went from being a poor emigrant place to a rich immigran
> > place. Sweden studied America in order to learn what to do--and what
> > not to do--in the 1920's and by the 30's it was already a model.
> 
> Please. Sweden did not start mass-immigration until 1960.  Wages were
> 3 times higher than in Finland (I was there -- as a summer-timer
> immigrant laborer). Downhill ever since, now Sweden is poorer than
> Finland with appaling third-world problems.

Well, the problem in Finland seems to have more to do with
globalization than with immigration. Sweden is another story, which
may prove the failure of socialism with people who don't share the
values (immigrants). I'd chose neither route: neither socialism nor
globalization, but ECONOMIC DEMOCRACY (mostly through competition from
coops), providing more employment with fewer hours and cutting down
welfare. Of course, those policies must be implemented first and
foremost in the countries that feed the immigrants to Scandinavia.

Scandinavia has its own system based on low corruption and high taxes
that may work best for them. At least it can't be called a jungle, and
it's #1 in most world rankings. For one the hordes of homeless, the
crime, the dilapidation you find in America are not found there...