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Re: Indian v Western Civilization: Are we stupid, or what?

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From: Gatos Loco
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 2004 04:28
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On 22 Sep 2004 23:36:38 -0700, christocbd@aol.com (fencingsax) wrote:

>nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com (DonQuijote1954) wrote in message news:<4e4a3f58.0409221037.78a9be41@posting.google.com>...
>> > > The Indians knew how to live with the land, and we beat them, and then
>> > > beat Nature, and finally we will beat ourselves to death. Hey,
>> > > hallelujah!!!
>> > >
>> >   Actually they were very hard on the land.  Slash and burn agriculture is
>> > not sustainable.
>> 
>> They may have been ignorant, but not stupid the way we are, that,
>> knowingly, shit where we sleep. Even cats and dogs are not that
>> stupid.
>> 
>> Hey, but you have to "survive" somehow in the jungle, and also keeping
>> up with the Joneses is no small matter, right?
>> 
>> http://committed.to/justiceforpeace
>
>They weren't stupid, they just didn't need technology.

Even without "technology" they managed to hunt several species to
extinction. And contrary to the belief that  they just lived in peace
and harmony... They also fought amongst themselves quite a bit. In
fact many of these tribal disputes continue today, now they take the
form of land disputes and such.  Which then makes a convinient excuse
for the gov to settle such disputes by land confiscation.

Probably did less damage because they didn't have any real beasts of
burden until horses were introduced. Whith the exception of lamas of
course. And there weapons were simple. Military campaigns aren't as
easy when you have to walk and carry all of your goods with you.

The Aztecs enslaved many members of small tribes. Which then prompted
many of these tribes to fight alongside the spanish when they
destroyed there empire.

When you look at the fact the most of the rest of humanity on the
globe was exposed to each other for such a long time the transfer of
technology between these people was vast. Mostly the chinese invented
everything and then a lot of europeans took credit for inventing it.  

Indians had a lot of calender technology. As well as other means of
survival. Saying they were ignorant is kind of pointless though.
Unfamiliar with EuroAsian cultures perhaps. But they managed to create
somewhat complex societies.  
 
They werent just innocent peaceful beings though.
But if you feel better believing it was all a peace and harmony thing,
and that prompts you to live more peacefully don't let me stop you.
You are probably better off that way. 

Cheers
Gato Loco
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