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Gatos Loco <gatosloco@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<dnr9l0dpgt1njio2bj2ir5ddbto5mumqnr@4ax.com>...
> On 22 Sep 2004 23:36:38 -0700, christocbd@aol.com (fencingsax) wrote:
> 
> >nolionnoproblem@hotmail.com (DonQuijote1954) wrote in message news:<4e4a3f58.0409221037.78a9be41@posting.google.com>...
> >> > > The Indians knew how to live with the land, and we beat them, and then
> >> > > beat Nature, and finally we will beat ourselves to death. Hey,
> >> > > hallelujah!!!
> >> > >
> >> >   Actually they were very hard on the land.  Slash and burn agriculture is
> >> > not sustainable.
> >> 
> >> They may have been ignorant, but not stupid the way we are, that,
> >> knowingly, shit where we sleep. Even cats and dogs are not that
> >> stupid.
> >> 
> >> Hey, but you have to "survive" somehow in the jungle, and also keeping
> >> up with the Joneses is no small matter, right?
> >> 
> >> http://committed.to/justiceforpeace
> >
> >They weren't stupid, they just didn't need technology.
> 
> Even without "technology" they managed to hunt several species to
> extinction. And contrary to the belief that  they just lived in peace
> and harmony... They also fought amongst themselves quite a bit. In
> fact many of these tribal disputes continue today, now they take the
> form of land disputes and such.  Which then makes a convinient excuse
> for the gov to settle such disputes by land confiscation.
> 
> Probably did less damage because they didn't have any real beasts of
> burden until horses were introduced. Whith the exception of lamas of
> course. And there weapons were simple. Military campaigns aren't as
> easy when you have to walk and carry all of your goods with you.
> 
> The Aztecs enslaved many members of small tribes. Which then prompted
> many of these tribes to fight alongside the spanish when they
> destroyed there empire.
> 
> When you look at the fact the most of the rest of humanity on the
> globe was exposed to each other for such a long time the transfer of
> technology between these people was vast. Mostly the chinese invented
> everything and then a lot of europeans took credit for inventing it.  
> 
> Indians had a lot of calender technology. As well as other means of
> survival. Saying they were ignorant is kind of pointless though.
> Unfamiliar with EuroAsian cultures perhaps. But they managed to create
> somewhat complex societies.  
>  
> They werent just innocent peaceful beings though.
> But if you feel better believing it was all a peace and harmony thing,
> and that prompts you to live more peacefully don't let me stop you.
> You are probably better off that way. 
> 
> Cheers
> Gato Loco

The Indians were far from ignorant.  We may look at their society as
being complex but that's just because we're spoiled.