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NATURE DOES NOT PLAY POLITICS
#834
Author: Pierre
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:59
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It's not difficult for the folks in New Orleans to understand the power of 
nature. And the same goes for those who have had face-to-face with the 
nature in a 'bad mood'. Now, for those with quasi-functional brains who 
have not yet been humbled by the force of nature, you should consider 
joining in the fight against global warming. 

One of the biggest obstacles in the curbing global warming is human - the 
greedy human, mostly found in corporate America. The American Petroleum 
Institute (API) has been working vigorously and secretly to block, hamper, 
and otherwise slow down the progress of curbing global warming. To find out 
more about what API has done, you can read articles like "Global Warming Is 
Good for You" by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber (2001).  Serious efforts 
by API and groups like Global Climate Coalition (GCC) have been successful 
in influencing the US administrations, both Clinton's and Bush's, to easy 
up the requirement of CO2 reduction from 30% to a laughable 7% by 2012.  
Since we cannot trust the government to ensure a healthy future for our 
children, we must take it to our hands like those "Minutemen" guarding the 
US-Mexico borders. The government has failed the standard of accountability 
and trust from the people as they answer only the power corporations like 
Exxon and Monsanto, which has been doing their best to destroy the 
environment, poison the water, and ultimately turning this planet into hell 
as their unscrupulous business practices creating global-warming related 
disasters like one impacted by Katrina.

The ocean temperature raises steady in the past decade most likely as a 
result of global warming have played a dominant role in the destruction of 
coral reef in the South Pacific. So what's so big deal about those coral 
reefs so far away from the continent US? Unless you don't care about foods 
provided by the ocean, you have nothing to worry about. However, if you do, 
you should be very concerned about the survival of coral reefs because the 
survival of fish depends on the survival of coral reefs as they are parts 
of the interdependent ecology. 

So, to fight for our survival it looks like we'd have to remove the 
government from the equation in which must eliminate a very bad and 
undesirable variable: corporate America, e.g., the members of API and GCC. 
We cannot and shall not let dirty and corrupted politics and human greed to 
decide the future of the planet, simply because nature does not play 
politics.



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Re: NATURE DOES NOT PLAY POLITICS
#835
Author: Marcel
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 03:40
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President Bush said there is no such thing as Global Warming. Rev Pat 
Robertson agreed with him.

"Pierre" <lapallier@synchronous.ca> wrote in message 
news:Xns96C2CADE31FBCDSFD123@38.119.71.69...
>
> It's not difficult for the folks in New Orleans to understand the power of
> nature. And the same goes for those who have had face-to-face with the
> nature in a 'bad mood'. Now, for those with quasi-functional brains who
> have not yet been humbled by the force of nature, you should consider
> joining in the fight against global warming.
>
> One of the biggest obstacles in the curbing global warming is human - the
> greedy human, mostly found in corporate America. The American Petroleum
> Institute (API) has been working vigorously and secretly to block, hamper,
> and otherwise slow down the progress of curbing global warming. To find 
> out
> more about what API has done, you can read articles like "Global Warming 
> Is
> Good for You" by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber (2001).  Serious efforts
> by API and groups like Global Climate Coalition (GCC) have been successful
> in influencing the US administrations, both Clinton's and Bush's, to easy
> up the requirement of CO2 reduction from 30% to a laughable 7% by 2012.
> Since we cannot trust the government to ensure a healthy future for our
> children, we must take it to our hands like those "Minutemen" guarding the
> US-Mexico borders. The government has failed the standard of 
> accountability
> and trust from the people as they answer only the power corporations like
> Exxon and Monsanto, which has been doing their best to destroy the
> environment, poison the water, and ultimately turning this planet into 
> hell
> as their unscrupulous business practices creating global-warming related
> disasters like one impacted by Katrina.
>
> The ocean temperature raises steady in the past decade most likely as a
> result of global warming have played a dominant role in the destruction of
> coral reef in the South Pacific. So what's so big deal about those coral
> reefs so far away from the continent US? Unless you don't care about foods
> provided by the ocean, you have nothing to worry about. However, if you 
> do,
> you should be very concerned about the survival of coral reefs because the
> survival of fish depends on the survival of coral reefs as they are parts
> of the interdependent ecology.
>
> So, to fight for our survival it looks like we'd have to remove the
> government from the equation in which must eliminate a very bad and
> undesirable variable: corporate America, e.g., the members of API and GCC.
> We cannot and shall not let dirty and corrupted politics and human greed 
> to
> decide the future of the planet, simply because nature does not play
> politics.
>
>
>
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Re: NATURE DOES NOT PLAY POLITICS
#836
Author: lo yeeOn
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 06:44
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In article <Xns96C2CADE31FBCDSFD123@38.119.71.69>,
Pierre  <lapallier@synchronous.ca> wrote:
>
>It's not difficult for the folks in New Orleans to understand the power of 
>nature. And the same goes for those who have had face-to-face with the 
>nature in a 'bad mood'. Now, for those with quasi-functional brains who 
>have not yet been humbled by the force of nature, you should consider 
>joining in the fight against global warming. 

I think to stop the ``shock-and-awe'' wars should be the pre-requisite
to fighting against increasing belligerent weather-related conditions.
It is so because the incessant ``shock-and-awe'' bombings introduce a
great deal of instability into the global environment when the
atmospheric system is being jerked around.  It also generates a ton of
heat, debris, and pulverized chemicals of all sorts that change the
composition of the local air currents which are then driven around the
globe over and over and wreak havoc in an unpredictable fashion but
with greater amplitude all the time.  And it exacerbates the impact of
global warming.  By itself, i believe that global warming would not be
as ferocious.  But with the large amount of sharp fluctuations brought
in at each modern war, beginning with Gulf War I, then the Balkan War
in 1995, then Balkan War II in 1999, then Afghanistan, then Iraq since
2003.  It is crazy to overlook the impact of all these fearsome strikes
have had on the weather system.

lo yeeOn
========

>
>One of the biggest obstacles in the curbing global warming is human - the 
>greedy human, mostly found in corporate America. The American Petroleum 
>Institute (API) has been working vigorously and secretly to block, hamper, 
>and otherwise slow down the progress of curbing global warming. To find out 
>more about what API has done, you can read articles like "Global Warming Is 
>Good for You" by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber (2001).  Serious efforts 
>by API and groups like Global Climate Coalition (GCC) have been successful 
>in influencing the US administrations, both Clinton's and Bush's, to easy 
>up the requirement of CO2 reduction from 30% to a laughable 7% by 2012.  
>Since we cannot trust the government to ensure a healthy future for our 
>children, we must take it to our hands like those "Minutemen" guarding the 
>US-Mexico borders. The government has failed the standard of accountability 
>and trust from the people as they answer only the power corporations like 
>Exxon and Monsanto, which has been doing their best to destroy the 
>environment, poison the water, and ultimately turning this planet into hell 
>as their unscrupulous business practices creating global-warming related 
>disasters like one impacted by Katrina.
>
>The ocean temperature raises steady in the past decade most likely as a 
>result of global warming have played a dominant role in the destruction of 
>coral reef in the South Pacific. So what's so big deal about those coral 
>reefs so far away from the continent US? Unless you don't care about foods 
>provided by the ocean, you have nothing to worry about. However, if you do, 
>you should be very concerned about the survival of coral reefs because the 
>survival of fish depends on the survival of coral reefs as they are parts 
>of the interdependent ecology. 
>
>So, to fight for our survival it looks like we'd have to remove the 
>government from the equation in which must eliminate a very bad and 
>undesirable variable: corporate America, e.g., the members of API and GCC. 
>We cannot and shall not let dirty and corrupted politics and human greed to 
>decide the future of the planet, simply because nature does not play 
>politics.
>
>
>
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Re: NATURE DOES NOT PLAY POLITICS
#837
Author: dearcilla
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:14
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Pierre wrote:
> It's not difficult for the folks in New Orleans to understand the power of
> nature. And the same goes for those who have had face-to-face with the
> nature in a 'bad mood'. Now, for those with quasi-functional brains who
> have not yet been humbled by the force of nature, you should consider
> joining in the fight against global warming.
>
[...]

Hey, don't you know the difference between weather and climate,
lame-brain?

--
Pies de Arcilla
dearcilla@gmail.com
Re: NATURE DOES NOT PLAY POLITICS
#839
Author: Marcel
Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2005 03:20
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The President said that global warming is not real, I think God told him so, 
or was it Rev Pat Robertson.

"Pierre" <lapallier@synchronous.ca> wrote in message 
news:Xns96C2CADE31FBCDSFD123@38.119.71.69...
>
> It's not difficult for the folks in New Orleans to understand the power of
> nature. And the same goes for those who have had face-to-face with the
> nature in a 'bad mood'. Now, for those with quasi-functional brains who
> have not yet been humbled by the force of nature, you should consider
> joining in the fight against global warming.
>
> One of the biggest obstacles in the curbing global warming is human - the
> greedy human, mostly found in corporate America. The American Petroleum
> Institute (API) has been working vigorously and secretly to block, hamper,
> and otherwise slow down the progress of curbing global warming. To find 
> out
> more about what API has done, you can read articles like "Global Warming 
> Is
> Good for You" by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber (2001).  Serious efforts
> by API and groups like Global Climate Coalition (GCC) have been successful
> in influencing the US administrations, both Clinton's and Bush's, to easy
> up the requirement of CO2 reduction from 30% to a laughable 7% by 2012.
> Since we cannot trust the government to ensure a healthy future for our
> children, we must take it to our hands like those "Minutemen" guarding the
> US-Mexico borders. The government has failed the standard of 
> accountability
> and trust from the people as they answer only the power corporations like
> Exxon and Monsanto, which has been doing their best to destroy the
> environment, poison the water, and ultimately turning this planet into 
> hell
> as their unscrupulous business practices creating global-warming related
> disasters like one impacted by Katrina.
>
> The ocean temperature raises steady in the past decade most likely as a
> result of global warming have played a dominant role in the destruction of
> coral reef in the South Pacific. So what's so big deal about those coral
> reefs so far away from the continent US? Unless you don't care about foods
> provided by the ocean, you have nothing to worry about. However, if you 
> do,
> you should be very concerned about the survival of coral reefs because the
> survival of fish depends on the survival of coral reefs as they are parts
> of the interdependent ecology.
>
> So, to fight for our survival it looks like we'd have to remove the
> government from the equation in which must eliminate a very bad and
> undesirable variable: corporate America, e.g., the members of API and GCC.
> We cannot and shall not let dirty and corrupted politics and human greed 
> to
> decide the future of the planet, simply because nature does not play
> politics.
>
>
>
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Re: NATURE DOES NOT PLAY POLITICS
#840
Author: Enough Already
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 09:20
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dearcilla wrote:

> Pierre wrote:
> > It's not difficult for the folks in New Orleans to understand the power of
> > nature. And the same goes for those who have had face-to-face with the
> > nature in a 'bad mood'. Now, for those with quasi-functional brains who
> > have not yet been humbled by the force of nature, you should consider
> > joining in the fight against global warming.
> >
> [...]
>
> Hey, don't you know the difference between weather and climate,
> lame-brain?

The climate _affects_ the weather in many ways, you smug bean-counter.
As the climate warms, these monster storms become more likely, even if
Creationist right-wingers choose not to believe it (like they really
care about science).

Bigger events effect smaller events in all aspects of life. Climate is
to weather as Greenspan is to your portfolio. Think of global warming
as rising interest rates with lots of ripple effects. Got it now,
genius?

Your badly-needed education is just a click away. Read the first link
first, since you'll probably start dreaming about $$$money$$$ and get
bored soon.

http://www.gfdl.noaa.gov/~tk/glob_warm_hurr.html
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=climate+affects+weather


E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.
Re: NATURE DOES NOT PLAY POLITICS
#841
Author: Enough Already
Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 09:42
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Pierre wrote:

> It's not difficult for the folks in New Orleans to understand the power of
> nature. And the same goes for those who have had face-to-face with the
> nature in a 'bad mood'. Now, for those with quasi-functional brains who
> have not yet been humbled by the force of nature, you should consider
> joining in the fight against global warming.

Most people are too busy consuming and being addicted to growth to care
(yet). The largest subset of those people are Republicans, so there's
your target audience.

> So, to fight for our survival it looks like we'd have to remove the
> government from the equation in which must eliminate a very bad and
> undesirable variable: corporate America, e.g., the members of API and GCC.
> We cannot and shall not let dirty and corrupted politics and human greed to
> decide the future of the planet, simply because nature does not play
> politics.

By "we" do you mean the relatively few who give a damn, confronting the
majority who still don't? If Usenet is any indicator it won't be easy.
I don't think we can change human nature but we can try to control
human numbers and lessen the total impact. The more I study the topic,
the more it seems that educating women worldwide is the key. Toning
down the Catholic Church is another big step. It should be illegal to
tell people they can breed without limits.

E.A.

http://enough_already.tripod.com/
If any other species behaved like Man we'd call it a plague.
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