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Us is in big state of denial about the quality of democracy it sells
> itself
> > > and world You got to be mega rich to be elected in US Senate or
Congress
> > or
> > > have tv news on your side. Over 70 percent of Senate  are or will be
millionaires soon.  Our news media totally ignore s the number of
> > > prescription drugs we take and why , and our air quality and
corresponding health problems often goes totally ignored in our free press
because the drug companies pay millions to keep the correlations from seeing
light of day by paying millions for drug ads..
Our press ignores and our nations debt,  and the  loss and
exporting
> > of
> > > millions of jobs, while  tens of millions of illegals (some say one in
ten people in US is or was illegal) vie for rest of jobs , while close  to
three million homeless, with the average low income worker unable to afford
a typical two bedroom apt to rent ( this from HUD).One
 in four kids in poverty,  one in eight to fifteen  kids with asthma or will
get it and a press totally silent, Who wants this democracy? ?> > > We have
market
makers and hedge fund trading which assures continued
> > losses
> > > for MOST investors except insiders and market makers who set you up
and
> > counter any investor momentum by going opposite legally because they
just
> > can. then when you get out they take the stock back up making it appear
investors gained. The continued losses that goes unsaid , truly a conspiracy
of
> global
> > proportions .Where the winners are the people who
> > > rape you and do it within the law mandated by Congress controlled by
the
> > Yep you guess it the same rich who are the only ones getting
elected..YEP
> > MOST investors lose , some freedom
> > > aye while ceos make off with mega millions ?. Top one percent
> > > getting larger and larger share of wealth, ( disproportionate)while
> having
> > > to be rich to be elected
> > > for office in Congress and Senate, who have absolutely no incentive to
> > > do anything for the majority but make the mouse traps better for
> > > themselves,. US is often about
> > > about being victims, to violence , crime, illness and fear  of which
that is  almost a daily occurance
> > for
> > > millions
> > > of people , especially the lower and middle class who has to
> additionally
> > pay for lost health, record credit card debt, lower savings, lost
> optimism, broken families, lostjobs, drugs and alcohol  to cope ,market
> losses, and  lost  hope, and
> > that which actually limits freedom and  doing the right things because
of
> > fear of being set up or a victim again. . If only the criminals didn't
> target their
> > own class of people Perhaps one day our violence will actually be  less
then that from terrorism  ... Do this over and over and we slowly destroy
> > ourselves and the values when our kids see things as a set up and
> > expectation for failure  or free pass to lie and manipulate  or make
> someone
> > sick in order to move ahead . Thats assuming they weren't affected
permantely from these conditions some call freedom to begin with. Just
horrific role models we teach our
kids.
> > What does society do to counter it?
> Congress ignores: loss of privacy,  increased business mergers and mega
> > > malls while small shops are going under, allows unlimited credit card
fees
and
> > > profits  , record consumer credit debt, high oil prices and  record
> > profits from oil over and over for decades while pollution and asthma
and global
> warming go unabated, the price we pay for reliance on the wrong things,
and
> > > market fraud  where insiders and market makers have the freedom to
rape the investor
> > faster and quicker , and do it without a thing said.
>  They have tv and news people paid
> > millions to put on happy shi...dribble about sports starts and movie
stars
> > while ignoring everything more important. We have record  alcohol sales
because some people see this as a viable alternative from the reality while
we talk about drunk driving and health as if we should see the connections.
Talk about democracy , this is
> > hell for people adversely affected ..
> > Our press ignores
> > > pollution -asthma connection from cars and buses which causes many
> people
> > > taking record number of prescriptions for lung conditions and press is
> > > silent,and of course our resolve to forget aboutglobal warming but
would
> > rather pay for the damage in some future consequence instead. . Control
> > takes alot of
> > > manipulation and in the end we do worse then had we done the right
> things
> > > to start. I think we pit people against each other cause it produces
> jobs
> > > and the rich stay rich.We are destroying ourselves while we don't even
> > have
> > > a news media
> > > that goes over our hypocrices . But free? They gots to be kidding.
> record
> > > number of people in jail, record number of prescriptions for
> medications,
> > > tens of thousands of murders each year, record number of asthma, while
> oil
> > > gets record revenue for last fifty years, ( most americans pay oil
> > countries
> > > more money then anything they ever will spend on their kids and
families
> > or
> > > homes combines) and while rich get record amount of nations wealth ,
one in four
> > with
> > > mental disease. Ever wonder why telephone companies can block every
> number
> > > out except out of state calls? Can you say so bill collectors and
> > marketers
> > > can call you? We worry about protecting a Saudi prince while 80
billion
> > > could have been spent on solar , wind power, fuel cells, there would
no
> > need
> > > to support the saudis who bombed us by the way. But you know this
keeps
> > > employment and rich richer. If we had spend this to begin with we
> wouldn't
> > > be dying in IRAQ. What is the pain all this violence and fears and
> asthma
> > > and lost wealth put on people? Unimanageable and of which is
discounted
> by
> > > history and  people who were never affected or too cold to envision
what
> > > hypocrisy is all about.We do this so the Haliburtons and Ceos maintain
record profits at the expense of small guys. Now supposidly we are worried
about sound weapons and laster weapons technology? The world is gone made
> > > Pluses? Some freedoms, internet,greatest entertainment, assortment of
> > > information, foods, music in the world, and Super Bowl and
> > > a general outline of a system that is probably better then most places
> but
> > > certainly not near all the places in the world
> > >
> > >
> >
> > believe the US stocks to be frauds. Its a shell game, with the
insiders
> > and brokerages and everyone reacting faster then you. Once you are in
> > though, they just take them down ( at least when the percentage long or
> > short get to be a certain point)or up opposite you. Hundreds of trades ,
> > where even Motley Fools said 90 percent of investors lose in stocks.
Says
> > allot about our system . Its not what we were led to believe, but  it is
> > unfortunately the very worse where stock trading and horse track
gambling
> is much worse then odds indicate. The rule of them to follow, is once your
> money goes in especially big money the stock starts to dive and the horse
> automatically loses more times then odds indicate. That's all to know
based
> on everyone I know who played the market or horses ( no winner). No
> different then any area in the world, cause we are
> > controlled very good . I read one study that said the transference of
> wealth
> > from average investors to insiders and whoever controls market makers
and
> > brokerages has approached the Trillions. Even so if they tell you stocks
> > went up big last year you will believe it.cause the tv and media control
> what you believe Dems or Republicans make no
> > difference, its a scam. You have to be virtually super rich to run for
> > election or able to play the politics game for long time.to get
anywhere.
> Sooo many
> > problems in world and this country wants the world to know we have a
> better way? It could be if democracy really worked but it don't as the top
> rich percent control disproportionate amount of the wealth and the average
> person is losing their savings . I assume when we stem violence overseas,
we
> forget that there are more killings in our own country due to violence
then
> whatever terrorism there was. Does this mean to end terror war? I don't
know
> but it does mean we better fix what is broke hee before we tell everyone
> here we have it so great. The news media totally ignore the amount of
asthma
> our kids need but write about some movie star or baseball player whatever
> chance we get. Whoever said this is freedom is nuts.What a world
> > , what a world.
> > . stocks are manipulated, rich keep getting richer, millions afraid of
> > violence
> > which seems to be at least just as bad as the terrorism from abroad.
> > Millions just about making ends meet. Obesity  and asthma at record
levels
> .
> > And our tv stations hire  models who paint a pretty picture of it all...
> the
> > power of the news media to tell you lies . Everyone
> > is a notch away from being addicted or sick or a victim of something .
> This
> > is not a free country but hell , if your happy in spite of all this, you
> > deserve to spread it around cause you have learned to decipher the
> negatives from your world real good or as I say , you learned to live in
> denial.
> >
> Ps. someone told me perhaps this is how many markets is set up , not only
in
> USA. I responded I don't know about there but I do know about here, and
here
> its a set up to lose.
>
>
"gesta" <gesta@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> From: "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.activism,alt.poetry,alt.poetry,soc.culture.jewish,alt.politics
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 6:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Negative feelings about everything.
>
>
> > I believe the US stocks to be frauds. Its a shell game, with the
insiders
> > and brokerages and everyone reacting faster then you. Once you are in
> > though, they just take them down ( at least when the percentage long or
> > short get to be a certain point)or up opposite you. Hundreds of trades ,
> > where even Motley Fools said 90 percent of investors lose in stocks.
Says
> > allot about our system . Its not what we were led to believe, but  it is
> > unfiortunately the very worse where stock trading and horse track
gambling
> is much worse then odds indicate. The rule of them to follow, is once your
> money goes in especially big money the stock starts to dive and the horse
> automatically loses more times then odds indicate. Thats all to know based
> on everyone I know who played the market or horses ( no winner). No
> different then any area in the world, cause we are
> > controlled very good . I read one study that said the transference of
> wealth
> > from average investors to insiders and whoever controls market makers
and
> > brokerages has approached the Trillions. Even so if they tell you stocks
> > went up big last year you will believe it.cause the tv and media control
> what you believe Dems or Republicans make no
> > difference, its a scam. You have to be virtually super rich to run for
> > election or able to play the politics game for long time.to get
anywhere.
> Sooo many
> > problems in world and this country wants the world to know we have a
> better way? It could be if democracy really worked but it dont as the top
> rich percent control disaproportiate amount of the wealth and the average
> person is losing their savings . I assume when we stem violence overseas,
we

>
>
"Gary J. English" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:37:39 GMT, "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You really are a dimwit, posting this run-on crap in;
>
> phl.housing,pa.politics,ny.politics,md.politics,alt.politics
>
> What, no pa.environment?  an appropriate newsgroup to post & whine in.
>
> Get a life.
> Get moving........out of Philly to cleaner air......
>
> >and people are worried about a discolored teeth? When the weather people
say
> >beautiful day when the air is unhealthy you know they ae trying to kill
you
> >off. But good old Edy is not worried about vice president Edwards said
last
> >night, he is worried about the freaking Eagles football club.
> >In case your new here , Philly air is one of the worse in the country. AS
> >few as five years ago our air never came close to being moderate in
winter
> >( only in summer) . Moderate level reading incidentally is when some
> >scientists is enought to call premature death . Our air now has more days
in
> >moderate then good and in fact days and days of UNHEALTHY as in WARNINGS
> >which our news whores don't tell you about. This is the air your choosing
to
> >give your kids and not fight like helll complaining about? You worried
about
> >braces but not one of the most important things for poeple? The quality
of
> >the air? Don't let news media dictate what is important. In this day and
age
> >you must , look out for you and your family. Complain to Congress and
Senate
> >that you want your kids to live in safe surroundings. Our govt has an
> >obligation to protect us not HARM US. Try to get a copy of a tape ,
former
> >vice Presidential Candidate Edwards told the Rhode Island Democrats last
> >night in a speech. Bush only cares about rich and he is leaving working
> >class with ill health and record debt.
> >
>


"Gary J. English" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:nrph01tmfot338biei1b2egb6f6ih2bto2@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:52:27 GMT, "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You really are a dimwit, posting this run-on crap in pa.politics
>
> What, no pa.environment?  an appropriate newsgroup to post & whine in.
>
> Get a life.
> Get moving........out of Philly to cleaner air......
>
> >and people are worried about a discolored tooth? When the weather people
say
> >beautiful day when the air is unhealthy you know they ae trying to kill
you
> >off. But good old Edy Rendell is not worried about what vice president
> >Edwards said last
> >night, he is worried about the freaking Eagles football club.
> >In case your new here , Philly air is one of the worse in the country. AS
> >few as five years ago our air never came close to being moderate in
winter
> >( only in summer) . Moderate level reading incidentally is when some
> >scientists is enough to cause  premature death . Our air now has more
days
> >in
> >moderate then good and in fact, more days of UNHEALTHY as in WARNINGS
> >which our news whores don't tell you about then ever before and its not
even
> >summer. This is the air your choosing to
> >give your kids and not fight like helll complaining about? The air is now
> >becoming not only bad its becoming a hell hole.You worried about
> >braces but not one of the most important things for poeple? forget clean
air
> >, how about acceptable ?  The quality of
> >the air is being dumped on by Bush who allowed the coal companies and car
> >companies to delay implementation of cleaner air? Don't let news media
> >dictate what is important. In this day and age
> >you must , look out for you and your family. Complain to Congress and
Senate
> >that you want your kids to live in safe surroundings.That Bush doesnt'
have
> >a fking mandate to poison you or your loved ones. This is like we are now
> >becoming a target from our govt and if they are warning you , how bad you
> >think it really is?  Our govt has an
> >obligation to protect us not HARM US. Try to get a copy of a tape ,
former
> >vice Presidential Candidate Edwards told the Rhode Island Democrats last
> >night in a speech. Bush only cares about rich and he is leaving working
> >class with ill health and record debt. Bush and govt is literally killing
> >you and your kids. This guy ought to be tried for treason NOW
> >
> >
> >
>
"Gary J. English" <nospam@nomail.com> wrote in message
news:3mph015albin6i4un9i3e1an0u4ku2q2fa@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2005 05:37:39 GMT, "mcs" <mcs@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You really are a dimwit, posting this run-on crap in;
>
> phl.housing,pa.politics,ny.politics,md.politics,alt.politics
>
> What, no pa.environment?  an appropriate newsgroup to post & whine in.
>
> Get a life.
> Get moving........out of Philly to cleaner air......
>
> >and people are worried about a discolored teeth? When the weather people
say
> >beautiful day when the air is unhealthy you know they ae trying to kill
you
> >off. But good old Edy is not worried about vice president Edwards said
last
> >night, he is worried about the freaking Eagles football club.
> >In case your new here , Philly air is one of the worse in the country. AS
> >few as five years ago our air never came close to being moderate in
winter
> >( only in summer) . Moderate level reading incidentally is when some
> >scientists is enought to call premature death . Our air now has more days
in
> >moderate then good and in fact days and days of UNHEALTHY as in WARNINGS
> >which our news whores don't tell you about. This is the air your choosing
to
> >give your kids and not fight like helll complaining about? You worried
about
> >braces but not one of the most important things for poeple? The quality
of
> >the air? Don't let news media dictate what is important. In this day and
age
> >you must , look out for you and your family. Complain to Congress and
Senate
> >that you want your kids to live in safe surroundings. Our govt has an
> >obligation to protect us not HARM US. Try to get a copy of a tape ,
former
> >vice Presidential Candidate Edwards told the Rhode Island Democrats last
> >night in a speech. Bush only cares about rich and he is leaving working
> >class with ill health and record debt.
> >
>