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Article #159Re: GOA/GOC betrayed gun-rights in California
From: Keith A Flick
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:32
Date: Wed, 22 May 2002 13:32
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"Sam A. Kersh" <sam.a.kersh@us.army.mil> wrote in message news:b3cleu40hvfsj22jajgo18vtufbdltj08c@4ax.com... > On Tue, 21 May 2002 13:14:52 -0700, "Jim Cammarano" > <hmcinc@compuserve.com> wrote: > > >> > >> 'Course OTOH, we could still otherwise be stuck with a five day > >> waiting period. Would that be better than the NICS? > > > >HOW ABOUT NO WAITING PERIOD! What good is NICS? They just computerized the > >records they said were only 50% accurate. So now they can be just as > >inaccurate only faster. The point of the system supposedly is to prevent > >criminals from getting firearms. Apparently, it is NOT being used for that > >purpose. Since the Brady Bill went into effect less than 12 people have > >been convicted and the point for this infringement on our Consitutional > >right is............? > > Sigh..... When the Brady Bill was being argued, the NRA counted noses > and knew we were going to lose on that one. How bad was the question. > Brady, at that time was purely a waiting period, no back ground checks. > We had several states to point to which had honest-to-god instant check > systems like the credit card companies use. The NRA began to push > another bill which was an instant check system modeled after the ones > already used in some states. No waiting period. We began to make > headway and the Brady backers panicked, changed the bill to eventually > change to an instant check system but with a 5 day wait unless you were > cleared or found wanting in a shorter time. The bill was enacted and > signed into law. The wait was to sunset after Sept 1, 1999 and become > a true instant check system. The antis quickly began work on Brady II > which would delay or kill the instant check system and default to a > California delay. Brady II never made it out the door. AG Reno got > caught unprepared when time ran out and had the FBI cobble together the > current NICS system. A system Clinton and Company never intended to > work properly and it doesn't, by design. But that isn't the NRA's > fault. We did the best we could with a bad situation and found, that > once again, we were dealing with people without principles. But the > NRA is still being blamed, even by some of its members... I am one of those members. I have one question that I would like answered by the leadership of the NRA: HAVE YOU MANAGED TO LEARN -ANYTHING- YET? Gun control by definition is a lie. Anyone who proposes it, supports it or claims it does more good than harm is a liar. Why do you support liars, help pass their bills and then complain that they don't have any principles because they went back on what they "said" they would do? I believe that a law that required a delay that we FOUGHT and lost to would be better than a registration system that we SUPPORTED and won. > > Sam A. Kersh > NRA Patron Member > L.E.A.A. Life Member > TSRA Life Member > GOA, JPFO, SAF > http://www.flash.net/~csmkersh/ > =============================================================== > > Read Jeff Snyder's unabridged analysis of the S&W/HUD sellout > at http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/jeffsnyder.html
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