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Re: GOA / GOC sold out CA gun rights in 1998

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From: kbellis3
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 13:42
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Mikey, you have brought this up several times before so let me repost my
response to this assertation that you make.

As for GOC/GOA supporting Dan Lundgren, big deal. That was one decision that
you can sight as disagreeing with. I personally disagree with it, however
there was logic behind the decision. That logic was simply this Dan Lundgren
is/was better than Gray Davis in the overall scheme of things. Leaving
Second Amendment issues aside CA would have been better off if Dan Lundgren
had been elected, fiscally and economically I think that the state would be
better in Dan Lundgren's hands. Hell, we would be better off if Jerry
"Moonbeam" Brown or even his sister was governor.

Just look at Gay Davis campaign commercials, he brags about all the gun
control laws that he has signed into law as governor.

In regard to the NRA not endorsing Dan Lundgren, the truth of the matter is
that Tanya Metaksa former head of the ILA refused to endorse him. Despite
massive pressure on her from many Republican party leaders to give Lundgren
the endorsement. (She always had the biggest set of brass ones aside from
Margaret Thatcher.)

Now let us look at the bonehead moves pulled by the NRA recently. The NRA
withdrew from the Campaign Finance Reform fight in D.C.  before the fight
was even over, according to the press reports Wayne was said to have
commented that the NRA will just go to court and get Campaign Finance Reform
overturned. Sad statement, anyone know that in litigation there are no real
guarantees that you will win in court, look at the law suits that have gone
before the CA Supreme Court, we the gun owners of California have routinely
had our asses handed to use when going before the CA Supreme Court. There
are no guarantees that the Supreme of Supremes will find campaign finance
unconstitutional.

In the CA Gubernatorial Primary we saw the boneheads tell us in December
2001, we (NRA-ILA) don't get involved in Primaries. Only to
wait until about 6-7 weeks before the primary election to come out and
support Bill Jones, a guy who needed a telescope to even see Second Place.

Now remember the NRA banners proclaiming 400,000 CA NRA Members supporting
Bill Jones, hello according to the numbers that the NRA cites 52% of all
California NRA members are Democrats Now in the CA Democrats can not vote in
the Republican Party Primary, so less than 200,000 NRA members could even go
to the polls and support the NRA endorsed candidate.

Now Mikey you say that the GOC has sold out the Republican Party, do you
know how much money the NRA gave in direct contributions to the California
Republican Party recently, well in 2000 the NRA gave $100,000.00 Directly to
the California Republican Party. I have heard that the NRA also made other
similar donations in other states and possibly at the federal level (in
varying dollars amounts of course.)

09/19/2000 CALIFORNIA REPUBLICAN PARTY   SUPPORT MONETARY $100,000.00
http://cal-access.ss.ca.gov/Campaign/Committees/calaccess.aspsession=1999&id
=1030530&detail=MADE

So who has sold out to the Republican Party Mikey, I was once told by one of
your good buddies that NRA does not stand for National Republican Assembly.
Looking at the above donation one could say that that statement is up in the
air.

Only now does the NRA seem to be making a big push at finding Pro-gun
Democrats to support.

Kyle Ellis

"Common Sense is clearly the first casualty in political discourse."
by Me


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From: "kbellis3" <kbellis3@linkline.com>
Newsgroups: ca.firearms,ca.politics,dc.talk.guns,talk.politics.guns,tx.guns
Subject: Re: GOA / GOC sold out CA gun rights in 1998
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 06:42:49 -0700
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