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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_018B_01C0CF41.393878C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable NRA-ILA FAX ALERT=20 Vol. 8, No. 17 4/27/01=20 ANTI-GUN EXTREMISTS SUFFER MONUMENTAL JUDICIAL DEFEAT Yesterday, the New York Court of Appeals joined the ever-growing list of = courts that have rejected reckless lawsuits against gun makers by = unanimously ruling that victims of firearm-related violence cannot sue = firearm manufacturers for the criminal misuse of a non-defective product = (i.e., firearms). The suit, Hamilton v. Accu-Tek, is one of dozens that = are heavily supported by the gun-ban lobby, HCI, its "educational" arm = the Center to Prevent Handgun Violence (CPHV), and many other anti-gun = organizations. These reckless lawsuits are designed to circumvent the = legislative process-where the anti-gun community has suffered countless = defeats-and harass the firearm industry either into bankruptcy, or into = allowing anti-gun organizations or bureaucrats to dictate how gun makers = design and market their products.=20 Thursday's ruling held that firearm manufacturers cannot be held liable = when their legally produced, legally distributed, non-defective products = are used by violent criminals. The court also stated that "Federal law = already has implemented a statutory and regulatory scheme to ensure = seller 'responsibility' through licensing requirements and buyer = 'responsibility' through background checks." Further, the ruling = rejected the "reforms" to the firearm industry proposed by the = plaintiffs because of a failure to show how such changes in = manufacturing or marketing practices would reduce the criminal misuse of = firearms, and because the court found the proposed changes would = eliminate "a significant number of lawful sales to 'responsible' buyers = by 'responsible' Federal firearms licensees...." The ruling also = concluded that the suit's demand that manufacturers investigate Federal = firearms licensees for possible illegal activity was "neither feasible = nor appropriate," noting that "the plaintiffs' own law enforcement = experts agreed that the manufacturers should not make any attempt to = investigate illegal gun trafficking on their own since such attempts = could disrupt pending criminal investigations and endanger the lives of = undercover officers."=20 "We are extremely gratified by today's ruling because the Court = recognized that by complying with the extensive statutory and regulatory = scheme established by Congress and administered by the Bureau of = Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF) federally licensed firearms = manufacturers distribute and sell their lawful products in a safe and = responsible manner and help to keep firearms out of the hands of = criminals," said Robert T. Delfay, president and chief executive officer = of the National Shooting Sports Foundation, Inc., the trade association = for the firearms industry. "We have long supported law enforcement's = efforts to combat illegal firearms trafficking and cooperate whenever = and however we are asked to do so, but, obviously, recognize that we = have no law enforcement authority and should not do things that = jeopardize those efforts or put law enforcement officers in danger," = added Delfay.=20 This is just the latest judicial rejection of reckless lawsuits against = gun makers. Courts across the country have been throwing out similar = cases-including some filed by a cabal of anti-gun big-city mayors-and = this tactic is also being rejected by state legislatures. Just last = week, Indiana became the 25th state to enact a law that prohibits = municipalities from filing these suits, and Florida (see "A Look At The = States") is poised to put us over the half-way point. There is also = NRA-backed federal legislation that calls for a national prohibition on = reckless lawsuits against the firearm industry-H.R. 123-introduced by = U.S. Representative (and NRA Director) Bob Barr (R-Ga.). As the courts = and legislatures continue to reject this extortion effort by the = anti-gun community, we will continue to keep you updated.=20 URGE YOUR SENATORS TO OPPOSE S. 767 U.S. Senator Jack Reed (D-R.I.) has introduced S.767, his version of the = legislation once pushed by former U.S. Senator Frank Lautenberg (D-N.J.) = that sought to end gun shows as we know them today. We also expect U.S. = Senators John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Joseph Lieberman (D-Conn.) to = introduce their "compromise" gun show legislation very soon. And as the = Senate has taken up the issue of education reform, we anticipate that = Reed and fellow gun-ban extremists such as U.S. Senators Dianne = Feinstein (D-Calif.) and Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) will be working with = anti-gun organizations to attach Reed's assault on gun shows, as well as = other anti-gun amendments with no relevance to education reform, to any = education legislation brought up for consideration. Contact your U.S. = Senators and urge them to oppose the attack on gun shows, as well as any = other anti-gun effort. You can reach your U.S. Senators by calling the = U.S. Senate switchboard at (202) 224-3121. Just ask for your lawmaker's = office, or give the operator your zip code. Also, for those on the = Internet, you can find contact information for your federal lawmakers by = using the "Write Your Reps" tool at www.NRAILA.org.=20 ANTI-GUNNERS AND THEIR BRUSHES WITH THE LAW It seems that anti-gun extremists are having all sorts of trouble with = the law. Last week we told you about the conviction of Robert Brennan. = This week it's two noted anti-gun U.S. Senators. The April 23 edition of = Roll Call revealed that, according to a Federal Election Commission = (FEC) audit, U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer's (D-N.Y.) 1998 Senate campaign = failed to properly handle its finances. Schumer's spokespeople shrugged = off the FEC report, admitting there were errors, but claiming they were = quickly corrected. Another anti-gun U.S. Senator, Robert Torricelli = (D-N.J.), is facing an embarrassing investigation of his own. Torricelli = has been accused of accepting tens of thousands of dollars in unreported = gifts, an allegation first revealed by the New York Times. Apparently = the anti-gun community is simply numerically-challenged. After all, the = so-called "Million" Mom March didn't have anywhere near a million moms = at last year's "march"-the One Hundred-Thousand-or-so Mom March would = have been a far more accurate name-and HCI President Michael Barnes = intentionally misled Congress earlier this year when his testimony = implied that 11 children die every day from firearm-related accidents-in = fact, there was a total of 121 firearm-related accidents involving = children in all of 1998!=20 C-SPAN 2 WILL AIR COLUMBIA COLLEGE CONSERVATIVE CLUB PANEL On April 18, the Columbia College Conservative Club hosted a panel of = noted researchers and scholars to discuss the controversial book "Arming = America" by Michael Bellesiles. This event was organized to offer a = different perspective to the ceremony held the same day where Bellesiles = was awarded the Bancroft Award by Columbia University. The panel = included Yale professor John Lott-author of "More Guns, Less Crime: = Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws"-Clayton Cramer-author of = several historical books, including "For the Defense of Themselves and = the State: The Original Intent and Judicial Interpretation of the Right = to Keep and Bear Arms"-and attorney Stephen Halbrook-who successfully = argued against the constitutionality of the Brady Act before the Supreme = Court of the United States. C-SPAN 2 is scheduled to air the award = ceremony, followed by the panel discussion, this Sunday, April 29, at = 8:50 p.m. EST.=20 A LOOK AT THE STATES CALIFORNIA=20 After moving Assembly Bill 35 (Shelley), the "English Only" Handgun = Licensing Bill, off of last Wednesday's schedule due to pressure created = by your phone calls, faxes, and e-mail, the Assembly's Appropriations = Committee has rescheduled a hearing for Wednesday, May 2 (for bill = details see FAX Alert Vol. 8, No.16, 4/20/01). Please keep the pressure = on by continuing to contact the members of the Appropriations Committee = prior to the May 2 hearing and urging them to oppose AB 35. For a = complete listing of Committee members and contact information, use the = "Write Your Reps" tool at NRAILA.org, or call NRA-ILA Grassroots at = 800-392-8683.=20 COLORADO=20 SB 225, which seeks to ban the purchase of handguns by those 18-21 = without parental consent, will be considered by the full Senate next = Monday. Contrary to statements by the bill's sponsors, Governor Bill = Owens (R) DOES NOT support SB 225 and has said so publicly. Please = contact your State Senators at (303) 866-2316 and urge them to oppose SB = 225. Also, please call Senators Jim Dyer (303) 866-4884, Alice Nichol = (303) 866-4865, John Evans (303) 866-4881 and Norma Anderson (303) = 866-4859 and thank them for continuing to oppose SB 225.=20 FLORIDA=20 SB 412, a bill that seeks to protect firearm manufacturers from = reckless, politically-motivated lawsuits aimed at bankrupting them, = passed the full House on a 78-35 vote. The bill now goes to Governor Jeb = Bush's (R) desk. Contact your lawmakers by phone or e-mail to thank them = for supporting SB 412.=20 IOWA=20 SF488, a bill that sought to ban all private firearms transfers unless = they went through an FFL, is now dead for the year. Thank you to all = members who made calls to their lawmakers.=20 NORTH CAROLINA=20 House Bill 622, a bill that seeks to prohibit municipalities from filing = reckless lawsuits against gun makers, passed the House by a vote of = 101-16. Also, HB 320, a bill that sought to hold adults criminally = responsible if any minor gains access to a firearm and injures or kills = another person, and mandate storage requirements, was defeated by the = full House on an 83-33 vote.=20 OREGON=20 Republican State Senators have held firm against a number of attempts = over the past week to add gun control language to crime- or = education-related bills in the Oregon Senate. Contact these Republican = Senators on Monday to thank them for their support, and urge them to = resist any further attempts to advance gun-control advocates' agenda in = this manner. For a list of Republican State Senators and their capitol = phone numbers, visit www.leg.state.or.us.=20 TEXAS=20 HB 367, a bill making it a FELONY for anyone other than an FFL to trade = or sell a firearm at a gun show, has still not been set for a vote by = the full Texas House. Continue calling your State Representative at = (512) 463-4630 and urge him to oppose HB 367 if and when it's scheduled = for a vote.=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Having difficulty finding ILA-related info? Try our FAQ Sheet=20 NRAILA.org is maintained for the NRA by=20 Mainstream Electronic Information Services=20 Homepage established 1994 by the NRA Institute for Legislative Action=20 11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030=20 ------=_NextPart_000_018B_01C0CF41.393878C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 5.50.4612.600" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT size=3D2> <CENTER> <H2>NRA-ILA FAX ALERT </H2> <H3></CENTER>Vol. 8, No. 17 4/27/01 </H3><B> <CENTER>ANTI-GUN EXTREMISTS<BR>SUFFER MONUMENTAL JUDICIAL = DEFEAT</CENTER></B> <P>Yesterday, the <B>New York Court of Appeals</B> joined the = ever-growing list=20 of courts that have rejected reckless lawsuits against gun makers by = unanimously=20 ruling that victims of firearm-related violence cannot sue firearm = manufacturers=20 for the criminal misuse of a non-defective product (i.e., firearms). The = suit,=20 <B><I>Hamilton</I> v. <I>Accu-Tek</I></B>, is one of dozens that are = heavily=20 supported by the gun-ban lobby, <B>HCI</B>, its "educational" arm the = <B>Center=20 to Prevent Handgun Violence</B> (CPHV), and many other anti-gun = organizations.=20 These reckless lawsuits are designed to circumvent the legislative = process—where=20 the anti-gun community has suffered countless defeats—and harass = the firearm=20 industry either into bankruptcy, or into allowing anti-gun organizations = or=20 bureaucrats to dictate how gun makers design and market their products.=20 <P>Thursday's ruling held that firearm manufacturers cannot be held = liable when=20 their legally produced, legally distributed, non-defective products are = used by=20 violent criminals. The court also stated that "Federal law already has=20 implemented a statutory and regulatory scheme to ensure seller = ‘responsibility'=20 through licensing requirements and buyer ‘responsibility' through = background=20 checks." Further, the ruling rejected the "reforms" to the firearm = industry=20 proposed by the plaintiffs because of a failure to show how such changes = in=20 manufacturing or marketing practices would reduce the criminal misuse of = firearms, and because the court found the proposed changes would = eliminate "a=20 significant number of lawful sales to ‘responsible' buyers by = ‘responsible'=20 Federal firearms licensees...." The ruling also concluded that the = suit's demand=20 that manufacturers investigate Federal firearms licensees for possible = illegal=20 activity was "neither feasible nor appropriate," noting that "the = plaintiffs'=20 own law enforcement experts agreed that the manufacturers should not = make any=20 attempt to investigate illegal gun trafficking on their own since such = attempts=20 could disrupt pending criminal investigations and endanger the lives of=20 undercover officers."=20 <P>"We are extremely gratified by today's ruling because the Court = recognized=20 that by complying with the extensive statutory and regulatory scheme = established=20 by Congress and administered by the <B>Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and=20 Firearms</B> (BATF) federally licensed firearms manufacturers distribute = and=20 sell their lawful products in a safe and responsible manner and help to = keep=20 firearms out of the hands of criminals," said <B>Robert T. Delfay</B>, = president=20 and chief executive officer of the <B>National Shooting Sports = Foundation,=20 Inc.</B>, the trade association for the firearms industry. "We have long = supported law enforcement's efforts to combat illegal firearms = trafficking and=20 cooperate whenever and however we are asked to do so, but, obviously, = recognize=20 that we have no law enforcement authority and should not do things that=20 jeopardize those efforts or put law enforcement officers in danger," = added=20 Delfay.=20 <P>This is just the latest judicial rejection of reckless lawsuits = against gun=20 makers. Courts across the country have been throwing out similar = cases—including=20 some filed by a cabal of anti-gun big-city mayors—and this tactic = is also being=20 rejected by state legislatures. Just last week, <B>Indiana</B> became = the 25th=20 state to enact a law that prohibits municipalities from filing these = suits, and=20 <B>Florida</B> (see "A Look At The States") is poised to put us over the = half-way point. There is also NRA-backed federal legislation that calls = for a=20 national prohibition on reckless lawsuits against the firearm = industry—<B>H.R.=20 123</B>—introduced by <B>U.S. Representative</B> (and NRA = Director) <B>Bob=20 Barr</B> (R-Ga.). As the courts and legislatures continue to reject this = extortion effort by the anti-gun community, we will continue to keep you = updated.=20 <CENTER><B> <P>URGE YOUR SENATORS TO OPPOSE S. 767</CENTER></B> <P><B>U.S. Senator Jack Reed</B> (D-R.I.) has introduced <B>S.767</B>, = his=20 version of the legislation once pushed by former <B>U.S. Senator Frank=20 Lautenberg</B> (D-N.J.) that sought to end gun shows as we know them = today. We=20 also expect <B>U.S. Senators John McCain</B> (R-Ariz.) and <B>Joseph=20 Lieberman</B> (D-Conn.) to introduce their "compromise" gun show = legislation=20 very soon. And as the Senate has taken up the issue of education reform, = we=20 anticipate that Reed and fellow gun-ban extremists such as <B>U.S. = Senators=20 Dianne Feinstein</B> (D-Calif.) and <B>Chuck Schumer</B> (D-N.Y.) will = be=20 working with anti-gun organizations to attach Reed's assault on gun = shows, as=20 well as other anti-gun amendments with no relevance to education reform, = to any=20 education legislation brought up for consideration. <I><U>Contact your = U.S.=20 Senators and urge them to oppose the attack on gun shows, as well as any = other=20 anti-gun effort. You can reach your U.S. Senators by calling the U.S. = Senate=20 switchboard at (202) 224-3121. Just ask for your lawmaker's office, or = give the=20 operator your zip code. Also, for those on the Internet, you can find = contact=20 information for your federal lawmakers by using the "Write Your Reps" = tool at=20 www.NRAILA.org.</I></U>=20 <P><B> <CENTER>ANTI-GUNNERS<BR>AND THEIR BRUSHES WITH THE LAW</B></CENTER> <P>It seems that anti-gun extremists are having all sorts of trouble = with the=20 law. Last week we told you about the conviction of <B>Robert = Brennan</B>. This=20 week it's two noted anti-gun U.S. Senators. The April 23 edition of = <I><B>Roll=20 Call</I></B> revealed that, according to a <B>Federal Election = Commission</B>=20 (FEC) audit, <B>U.S. Senator Chuck Schumer's</B> (D-N.Y.) 1998 Senate = campaign=20 failed to properly handle its finances. Schumer's spokespeople shrugged = off the=20 FEC report, admitting there were errors, but claiming they were quickly=20 corrected. Another anti-gun U.S. Senator, <B>Robert Torricelli</B> = (D-N.J.), is=20 facing an embarrassing investigation of his own. Torricelli has been = accused of=20 accepting tens of thousands of dollars in unreported gifts, an = allegation first=20 revealed by the <B><I>New York Times</B></I>. Apparently the anti-gun = community=20 is simply numerically-challenged. After all, the so-called = "<B>Million</B>"=20 <B>Mom March</B> didn't have anywhere near a million moms at last year's = "march"—the One Hundred-Thousand-or-so Mom March would have been a = far more=20 accurate name—and <B>HCI President Michael Barnes</B> = intentionally misled=20 Congress earlier this year when his testimony implied that 11 children = die every=20 day from firearm-related accidents—in fact, there was a total of = 121=20 firearm-related accidents involving children in all of 1998!=20 <P><B> <CENTER>C-SPAN 2 WILL AIR COLUMBIA<BR>COLLEGE CONSERVATIVE CLUB=20 PANEL</B></CENTER> <P>On April 18, the <B>Columbia College Conservative Club</B> hosted a = panel of=20 noted researchers and scholars to discuss the controversial book = "<B>Arming=20 America</B>" by <B>Michael Bellesiles</B>. This event was organized to = offer a=20 different perspective to the ceremony held the same day where Bellesiles = was=20 awarded the <B>Bancroft Award</B> by Columbia University. The panel = included=20 <B>Yale</B> professor <B>John Lott</B>—author of "<B>More Guns, = Less Crime:=20 Understanding Crime and Gun Control Laws</B>"—<B>Clayton = Cramer</B>—author of=20 several historical books, including "<B>For the Defense of Themselves = and the=20 State: The Original Intent and Judicial Interpretation of the Right to = Keep and=20 Bear Arms</B>"—and attorney <B>Stephen Halbrook</B>—who = successfully argued=20 against the constitutionality of the <B>Brady Act</B> before the = <B>Supreme=20 Court of the United States</B>. <B>C-SPAN 2</B> is scheduled to air the = award=20 ceremony, followed by the panel discussion, this <B>Sunday, April 29, at = 8:50=20 p.m. EST</B>.=20 <P><B> <CENTER>A LOOK AT THE STATES</B></CENTER> <P><B>CALIFORNIA</B>=20 <P>After moving <B>Assembly Bill 35</B> (Shelley), the <B>"English Only" = Handgun=20 Licensing Bill</B>, off of last Wednesday's schedule due to pressure = created by=20 your phone calls, faxes, and e-mail, the <B>Assembly's Appropriations=20 Committee</B> has rescheduled a hearing for <B>Wednesday, May 2</B> (for = bill=20 details see FAX Alert Vol. 8, No.16, 4/20/01). <I><U>Please keep the = pressure on=20 by continuing to contact the members of the Appropriations Committee = prior to=20 the May 2 hearing and urging them to oppose AB 35. For a complete = listing of=20 Committee members and contact information, use the "Write Your Reps" = tool at=20 NRAILA.org, or call NRA-ILA Grassroots at 800-392-8683.</I></U>=20 <P><B>COLORADO</B>=20 <P><B>SB 225</B>, which seeks to ban the purchase of handguns by those = 18-21=20 without parental consent, will be considered by the full Senate next=20 <B>Monday</B>. Contrary to statements by the bill's sponsors, = <B>Governor Bill=20 Owens</B> (R) <B><I>DOES NOT</B></I> support SB 225 and has said so = publicly.=20 <I><U>Please contact your State Senators at (303) 866-2316 and urge them = to=20 oppose SB 225. Also, please call <B>Senators Jim Dyer</B> (303) = 866-4884,=20 <B>Alice Nichol</B> (303) 866-4865, <B>John Evans</B> (303) 866-4881 and = <B>Norma Anderson</B> (303) 866-4859 and thank them for continuing to = oppose SB=20 225.</I></U>=20 <P><B>FLORIDA</B>=20 <P><B>SB 412</B>, a bill that seeks to protect firearm manufacturers = from=20 reckless, politically-motivated lawsuits aimed at bankrupting them, = passed the=20 full House on a 78-35 vote. The bill now goes to <B>Governor Jeb = Bush's</B> (R)=20 desk. <I><U>Contact your lawmakers by phone or e-mail to thank them for=20 supporting SB 412.</I></U>=20 <P><B>IOWA</B>=20 <P><B>SF488</B>, a bill that sought to ban all private firearms = transfers unless=20 they went through an FFL, is now dead for the year. Thank you to all = members who=20 made calls to their lawmakers.=20 <P><B>NORTH CAROLINA</B>=20 <P><B>House Bill 622</B>, a bill that seeks to prohibit municipalities = from=20 filing reckless lawsuits against gun makers, passed the House by a vote = of=20 101-16. Also, <B>HB 320</B>, a bill that sought to hold adults = criminally=20 responsible if any minor gains access to a firearm and injures or kills = another=20 person, and mandate storage requirements, was defeated by the full House = on an=20 83-33 vote.=20 <P><B>OREGON</B>=20 <P><B>Republican State Senators</B> have held firm against a number of = attempts=20 over the past week to add gun control language to crime- or = education-related=20 bills in the <B>Oregon Senate</B>. <I><U>Contact these Republican = Senators on=20 Monday to thank them for their support, and urge them to resist any = further=20 attempts to advance gun-control advocates' agenda in this manner. For a = list of=20 Republican State Senators and their capitol phone numbers, visit=20 www.leg.state.or.us.</I></U>=20 <P><B>TEXAS</B>=20 <P><B>HB 367</B>, a bill making it a FELONY for anyone other than an FFL = to=20 trade or sell a firearm at a gun show, has still not been set for a vote = by the=20 full Texas House. <I><U>Continue calling your State Representative at = (512)=20 463-4630 and urge him to oppose HB 367 if and when it's scheduled for a=20 vote.</I></U>=20 <HR noShade> <CENTER> <P><FONT size=3D-2>Having difficulty finding ILA-related info? Try our = <A=20 href=3D"http://www.nraila.org/show.cgi?page=3D/grassroots/19990813-Genera= lInfo-015.html">FAQ=20 Sheet</A>=20 <P>NRAILA.org is maintained for the NRA by <BR></FONT><A=20 href=3D"http://www.mainstream.net/"><FONT size=3D-2>Mainstream = Electronic=20 Information Services </FONT></A><FONT size=3D-2> <P><FONT size=3D-2>Homepage established 1994 by the NRA Institute for = Legislative=20 Action <BR>11250 Waples Mill Road, Fairfax, VA 22030 </FONT></P> <P> </P></CENTER></FONT></FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_018B_01C0CF41.393878C0--
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