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If anyone has noticed, this is already the law with the BFSC state =
requirement to purchase a handgun. The thumb print is taken when the =
BFSC is applied for and is scanned by the state, so they also have a =
cross reference to your drivers license which also carries the thumb =
print. Some might say Big Brother is here, only Orwell missed the date =
of 1984 and should have said 1990 when the BFSC became law.

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  City Considers Law To Fingerprint Gun Buyers
  Activist Says State Law And Citizens' Rights At Stake
  Paul J. Young, Staff Writer
  January 23, 2001, 12:50 a.m. PST=20
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  LOS ANGELES -- Some members of the Los Angeles City Council are =
prepared to vote for a measure that would require gun buyers to provide =
fingerprints before they could purchase a firearm.=20

  Monday morning, a City Council panel approved the proposal, which now =
goes to the entire 15-member council for consideration.=20

  Councilman Mike Feuer is the measure's author and says that it would =
be an effective tool for local prosecutors to use when building cases =
against people who try to illegally purchase guns.=20

  "This provision paves the way for tough enforcement when prohibited =
persons attempt to buy guns, and it also will deter many from trying in =
the first place," Feuer said Monday.=20

  Under his proposal, anybody trying to purchase a gun inside city =
limits would have to agree to be fingerprinted first.=20

  The prints apparently would be kept on file and later utilized by =
prosecutors to help identify ex-cons trying to procure firearms.=20

  According to Feuer's office, there have been 5,000 such instances =
statewide in the last year, but prosecutors have failed to bring solid =
cases against the suspects because of questions about their identities.=20

  The councilman believes that fingerprinting "will help prosecutors win =
convictions of potentially dangerous criminals who illegally attempt to =
buy firearms."=20

  Sam Paredes, Executive Director of Gun Owners of California, says that =
Feuer and those sympathetic to his proposal have a lot to learn about =
state law and citizens' rights.=20

  "The council panel has just looked at state law and completely ignored =
it," Paredes told Channel 2000 Monday.=20

  "In California, we have what's called a preemption law. Under its =
provisions, the whole area of regulation of firearms ownership is =
usurped by the state.=20

  "This is not the purview of local communities. And that's so we don't =
have a checkerboard of laws on firearms from one locality to another. =
The state is the guiding light in these matters."=20

  According to Paredes, the state attorney general has an obligation to =
step in and stop the city of Los Angeles from trying to enforce a =
measure like the one proposed by Feuer.=20

  If Sacramento doesn't get involved, Paredes told Channel 2000 that his =
organization and other pro-self-defense groups will challenge =
fingerprinting.=20

  "We'll go to court ourselves," he said.=20

  As for what Paredes thinks of Feuer's proposal in general..=20

  "It's hokum! In reality, it's a whole bunch of smoke. It's what I like =
to call 'slogan legislation.' It sounds good.=20

  "They're pushing this piece of legislation [fingerprinting gun owners] =
whether it has any impact or not.=20

  "There's no secret that L.A. wants fewer gun owners in city limits. =
And what better way to intimidate people than have them fingerprinted or =
photographed?"=20

  Paredes told Channel 2000 that gun owners already undergo background =
checks and fill out pages of state and federal forms before they can =
purchase a firearm.=20

  He added that "law-abiding" citizens shouldn't be fingerprinted like =
common criminals when they wish to avail themselves of their Second =
Amendment right.=20




  Copyright 2001 by Channel 2000. All rights reserved.

   This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>If anyone has noticed, this is already the law with =
the BFSC=20
state requirement to purchase a handgun. The thumb print is taken when =
the BFSC=20
is applied for and is scanned by the state, so they also have a cross =
reference=20
to your drivers license which also carries the thumb print. Some might =
say Big=20
Brother is here, only Orwell missed the date of 1984 and should have =
said 1990=20
when the BFSC became law.</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV>
  <H2>City Considers Law To Fingerprint Gun Buyers</H2>
  <H3><I>Activist Says State Law And Citizens' Rights At =
Stake</I></H3><FONT=20
  size=3D2><I><A href=3D"mailto:pyoung@channel2000.com">Paul J. =
Young</A>, Staff=20
  Writer<BR>January 23, 2001, 12:50 a.m. PST</I></FONT> </DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>
  <P><B>LOS ANGELES</B> -- Some members of the <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.ci.la.ca.us/">Los Angeles City Council</A> are =
prepared to=20
  vote for a measure that would require gun buyers to provide =
fingerprints=20
  before they could purchase a firearm.=20
  <P>Monday morning, a City Council panel approved the proposal, which =
now goes=20
  to the entire 15-member council for consideration.=20
  <P><A href=3D"http://www.cityofla.org/council/cd5/">Councilman Mike =
Feuer</A> is=20
  the measure's author and says that it would be an effective tool for =
local=20
  prosecutors to use when building cases against people who try to =
illegally=20
  purchase guns.=20
  <P>"This provision paves the way for tough enforcement when prohibited =
persons=20
  attempt to buy guns, and it also will deter many from trying in the =
first=20
  place," Feuer said Monday.=20
  <P>Under his proposal, anybody trying to purchase a gun inside city =
limits=20
  would have to agree to be fingerprinted first.=20
  <P>The prints apparently would be kept on file and later utilized by=20
  prosecutors to help identify ex-cons trying to procure firearms.=20
  <P>According to Feuer's office, there have been 5,000 such instances =
statewide=20
  in the last year, but prosecutors have failed to bring solid cases =
against the=20
  suspects because of questions about their identities.=20
  <P>The councilman believes that fingerprinting "will help prosecutors =
win=20
  convictions of potentially dangerous criminals who illegally attempt =
to buy=20
  firearms."=20
  <P>Sam Paredes, Executive Director of <A=20
  href=3D"http://www.gunownersca.com/">Gun Owners of California</A>, =
says that=20
  Feuer and those sympathetic to his proposal have a lot to learn about =
state=20
  law and citizens' rights.=20
  <P>"The council panel has just looked at state law and completely =
ignored it,"=20
  Paredes told Channel 2000 Monday.=20
  <P>"In California, we have what's called a preemption law. Under its=20
  provisions, the whole area of regulation of firearms ownership is =
usurped by=20
  the state.=20
  <P>"This is not the purview of local communities. And that's so we =
don't have=20
  a checkerboard of laws on firearms from one locality to another. The =
state is=20
  the guiding light in these matters."=20
  <P>According to Paredes, the state attorney general has an obligation =
to step=20
  in and stop the city of Los Angeles from trying to enforce a measure =
like the=20
  one proposed by Feuer.=20
  <P>If Sacramento doesn't get involved, Paredes told Channel 2000 that =
his=20
  organization and other pro-self-defense groups will challenge =
fingerprinting.=20
  <P>"We'll go to court ourselves," he said.=20
  <P>As for what Paredes thinks of Feuer's proposal in general&#8230;.=20
  <P>"It's hokum! In reality, it's a whole bunch of smoke. It's what I =
like to=20
  call 'slogan legislation.' It sounds good.=20
  <P>"They're pushing this piece of legislation [fingerprinting gun =
owners]=20
  whether it has any impact or not.=20
  <P>"There's no secret that L.A. wants fewer gun owners in city limits. =
And=20
  what better way to intimidate people than have them fingerprinted or=20
  photographed?"=20
  <P>Paredes told Channel 2000 that gun owners already undergo =
background checks=20
  and fill out pages of state and federal forms before they can purchase =
a=20
  firearm.=20
  <P>He added that "law-abiding" citizens shouldn't be fingerprinted =
like common=20
  criminals when they wish to avail themselves of their Second Amendment =
right.=20
  <P>
  <P>
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