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How does a officer in the rear with the gear win a Bronze Star? A Bronze
Star is a badge of courage and can not nor should not be given to supply
clerk Desk Jockeys.

I knew that at some time in the future this dark secret would come out. A
Bronze Star is intended to be given to people who show courage under fire.
Many officers were given the Bronze Star for nothing more than showing up
in country. Any officer that does not have a Combat Infantry Badge or 
documented combat experience and uses it for political advantage is at
least disingenuous. 

Gray Davis has neither a CIB or  documented combat experience. His
inference of being a combat hero is wrong and insults the memory of 58,000
brothers and sisters who died in the Vietnam conflict.


I am not calling Gray Davis a phony, but if the shoe fits he must wear it.




ken berg <goken@inreach.com> wrote in article
<8skZ1.52161$D5.22213382@news.inreach.com>...
> Yeah but Davis is staunchly pro-choice.  That's reason enough not to vote
> for him in my book....
> 
> Ken
> 
> LAListener wrote in message <36355F63.25F6@pacbell.net>...
> >as forwarded from post on la.general
> >
> >
> >02698-99
> >26 Oct 1998
> >Newsgroups
> >Calif Vietnam Vet for Governor Aims High for Vets
> >
> >Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
> >Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
> >served as California's chief executive since Army Captain Ronald
> >Reagan occupied Governor's house. Gray's opponent, who requested and
> >received a student deferment from military service during the Vietnam
> >War, says California would be better served by a non-vet.
> >
> >        Gray Davis, Vietnam vet
> >        http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html
> >
> >        <a href="http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html">Gray
> >Davis, Vietnam vet</a>
> >
> >-- Signature:
> >   Brooke Rowe,
> >   Vietnam War History Correspondent
> >   REFERENCES: (Hyperlinks below)
> >
> >   The Vietnam War Master Link Resource Guide
> >   http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib6v.htm
> >
> >   Personnel Registry Application
> >   http://members.aol.com/veterans/registry.htm
> >
> >   The G.I. Photograph Museum and Registry
> >   http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib3.htm
> >
> >   <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib6v.htm">V'nam
> >Websites</a><br>
> >   <a href="http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwhrf.htm">V'nam War
> >Files</a><br>
> >   <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/registry.htm">Personnel
> >Registry Applications</a><br>
> >   <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib46.htm">Registry
> >Access Information</a><br>
> 
> 
> 

How does a officer in the rear with the gear win a Bronze Star? A Bronze
Star is a badge of courage and can not nor should not be given to supply
clerk Desk Jockeys.

I knew that at some time in the future this dark secret would come out. A
Bronze Star is intended to be given to people who show courage under fire.
Many officers were given the Bronze Star for nothing more than showing up
in country. Any officer that does not have a Combat Infantry Badge or 
documented combat experience and uses it for political advantage is at
least disingenuous. 

Gray Davis has neither a CIB or  documented combat experience. His
inference of being a combat hero is wrong and insults the memory of 58,000
brothers and sisters who died in the Vietnam conflict.


I am not calling Gray Davis a phony, but if the shoe fits he must wear it.


LAListener <nospam@pacbell.net> wrote in article
<36355F63.25F6@pacbell.net>...
> as forwarded from post on la.general
> 
> 
> 02698-99
> 26 Oct 1998
> Newsgroups
> Calif Vietnam Vet for Governor Aims High for Vets
> 
> Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
> Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
> served as California's chief executive since Army Captain Ronald
> Reagan occupied Governor's house. Gray's opponent, who requested and
> received a student deferment from military service during the Vietnam
> War, says California would be better served by a non-vet.
> 
>         Gray Davis, Vietnam vet
>         http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html
> 
>         <a href="http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html">Gray
> Davis, Vietnam vet</a>
> 
> -- Signature:
>    Brooke Rowe,
>    Vietnam War History Correspondent
>    REFERENCES: (Hyperlinks below)
>    
>    The Vietnam War Master Link Resource Guide
>    http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib6v.htm
> 
>    Personnel Registry Application
>    http://members.aol.com/veterans/registry.htm
> 
>    The G.I. Photograph Museum and Registry
>    http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib3.htm
> 
>    <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib6v.htm">V'nam
> Websites</a><br>
>    <a href="http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwhrf.htm">V'nam War
> Files</a><br>
>    <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/registry.htm">Personnel
> Registry Applications</a><br>
>    <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib46.htm">Registry
> Access Information</a><br>
> 

Jafo wrote:

> As viewed from alt.california on Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:51:31 -0800,
> LAListener wrote:
>
> >as forwarded from post on la.general
> >
> >
> >02698-99
> >26 Oct 1998
> >Newsgroups
> >Calif Vietnam Vet for Governor Aims High for Vets
> >
> >Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
> >Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
> >served as California's chief executive since Army Captain Ronald
> >Reagan occupied Governor's house. Gray's opponent, who requested and
> >received a student deferment from military service during the Vietnam
> >War, says California would be better served by a non-vet.
>
> Oh, please.  These are strange people indeed to be trading on
> patriotism.  Nobody's saying that the state would be "better served
> by a non-vet", only that the state would be better served by *this*
> non-vet.  This is certainly an amusing turn of events; Democrats have
> to search long and hard to find an under-70 veteran among their ranks.
> They have *one* and now they're a bunch of flag-wavers.  It's enough
> to turn your stomach.
>
> --
>  ~  Jafo

hummm... this lungren guy is starting to sound just like Clinton......
does he inhale?

As viewed from alt.california on 27 Oct 1998 14:38:20 GMT, 
Dan O wrote:

>How does a officer in the rear with the gear win a Bronze Star? A Bronze
>Star is a badge of courage and can not nor should not be given to supply
>clerk Desk Jockeys.
>
>I knew that at some time in the future this dark secret would come out. A
>Bronze Star is intended to be given to people who show courage under fire.
>Many officers were given the Bronze Star for nothing more than showing up
>in country. Any officer that does not have a Combat Infantry Badge or 
>documented combat experience and uses it for political advantage is at
>least disingenuous. 
>
>Gray Davis has neither a CIB or  documented combat experience. His
>inference of being a combat hero is wrong and insults the memory of 58,000
>brothers and sisters who died in the Vietnam conflict.

Let's hope he did *something* more than show up in country to win the
medal.  Remember Admiral Boorda.

>I am not calling Gray Davis a phony, but if the shoe fits he must wear it.

Book 'em, Dan O.    ;^)

-- 
 ~  Jafo                           http://bounce.to/jafo

"You should have done this sooner. With an infinitely more
distinguished public record than yours, Adm. [Jeremy Michael]
Boorda committed suicide when he may have committed a minor
mistake."  - Rep. Tom Lantos, California Democrat.

Dan O wrote:
>  
> I am not calling Gray Davis a phony, but if the shoe fits he must wear it.


The New Repiglican dress code:
No shoes, no service ?   

No shirt, Sherlock.

hc23hc@artlink.ne wrote in article <3636291E.6524@artlink.ne>...
> Dan O wrote:
> >  
> > I am not calling Gray Davis a phony, but if the shoe fits he must wear
it.
> 
> 
> The New Repiglican dress code:
> No shoes, no service ?   
> 
> No shirt, Sherlock.

? What's with the insult? How about arguing the issues?
> 

LAListener wrote:
> 
> as forwarded from post on la.general
> 
> 02698-99
> 26 Oct 1998
> Newsgroups
> Calif Vietnam Vet for Governor Aims High for Vets
> 
> Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
> Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
> served as California's chief executive since Army Captain Ronald
> Reagan occupied Governor's house. 

Unbroken chain?  While we've all heard the stories about
Jerry Brown being a space cadet, I don't believe he was actually
a member of any of the military's branches.

K.

As viewed from alt.california on 27 Oct 1998 22:36:04 GMT, Dan O
wrote:

>hc23hc@artlink.ne wrote in article <3636291E.6524@artlink.ne>...
>> Dan O wrote:
>> >  
>> > I am not calling Gray Davis a phony, but if the shoe fits he must wear
>> > it.
 
>> The New Repiglican dress code:
>> No shoes, no service ?   
>> 
>> No shirt, Sherlock.

>? What's with the insult? How about arguing the issues?

You're new around here, Dan O; Slick <hc23hc> is known 'round 
these parts for never doing that.  See
http://www.cheetah.net/assholes/005.html

--
 ~  Jafo                           http://bounce.to/jafo

Dan O wrote:
> 
> hc23hc@artlink.ne wrote in article <3636291E.6524@artlink.ne>...
> > Dan O wrote:
> > >
> > > I am not calling Gray Davis a phony, but if the shoe fits he must wear
> it.
> >
> >
> > The New Repiglican dress code:
> > No shoes, no service ?
> >
> > No shirt, Sherlock.
> 
> ? What's with the insult? How about arguing the issues?
> >


Sorry, after your mysterious shoe metaphor, whatever else you
were saying kind of stopped making sense.

Want to try again ?

LAListener wrote in message <36355F63.25F6@pacbell.net>...
>as forwarded from post on la.general
>
>
>02698-99
>26 Oct 1998
>Newsgroups
>Calif Vietnam Vet for Governor Aims High for Vets
>
>Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
>Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
>served as California's chief executive since Army Captain Ronald
>Reagan occupied Governor's house. Gray's opponent, who requested and
>received a student deferment from military service during the Vietnam
>War, says California would be better served by a non-vet.
>
>        Gray Davis, Vietnam vet
>        http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html
>
>        <a href="http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html">Gray
>Davis, Vietnam vet</a>
>
>

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As viewed from alt.california on Mon, 26 Oct 1998 21:51:31 -0800,
LAListener wrote:

>as forwarded from post on la.general
>
>
>02698-99
>26 Oct 1998
>Newsgroups
>Calif Vietnam Vet for Governor Aims High for Vets
>
>Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
>Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
>served as California's chief executive since Army Captain Ronald
>Reagan occupied Governor's house. Gray's opponent, who requested and
>received a student deferment from military service during the Vietnam
>War, says California would be better served by a non-vet.

Oh, please.  These are strange people indeed to be trading on
patriotism.  Nobody's saying that the state would be "better served 
by a non-vet", only that the state would be better served by *this*
non-vet.  This is certainly an amusing turn of events; Democrats have
to search long and hard to find an under-70 veteran among their ranks.
They have *one* and now they're a bunch of flag-wavers.  It's enough
to turn your stomach.

--
 ~  Jafo                           http://bounce.to/jafo

Yeah but Davis is staunchly pro-choice.  That's reason enough not to vote
for him in my book....

Ken

LAListener wrote in message <36355F63.25F6@pacbell.net>...
>as forwarded from post on la.general
>
>
>02698-99
>26 Oct 1998
>Newsgroups
>Calif Vietnam Vet for Governor Aims High for Vets
>
>Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
>Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
>served as California's chief executive since Army Captain Ronald
>Reagan occupied Governor's house. Gray's opponent, who requested and
>received a student deferment from military service during the Vietnam
>War, says California would be better served by a non-vet.
>
>        Gray Davis, Vietnam vet
>        http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html
>
>        <a href="http://www.gray-davis.com/issues/veterans.html">Gray
>Davis, Vietnam vet</a>
>
>-- Signature:
>   Brooke Rowe,
>   Vietnam War History Correspondent
>   REFERENCES: (Hyperlinks below)
>
>   The Vietnam War Master Link Resource Guide
>   http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib6v.htm
>
>   Personnel Registry Application
>   http://members.aol.com/veterans/registry.htm
>
>   The G.I. Photograph Museum and Registry
>   http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib3.htm
>
>   <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib6v.htm">V'nam
>Websites</a><br>
>   <a href="http://members.aol.com/warlibrary/vwhrf.htm">V'nam War
>Files</a><br>
>   <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/registry.htm">Personnel
>Registry Applications</a><br>
>   <a href="http://members.aol.com/veterans/warlib46.htm">Registry
>Access Information</a><br>

As viewed from alt.california on Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:36:22 -0800,
hc23hc@artlink.ne wrote:

>Dan O wrote:
>> ? What's with the insult? How about arguing the issues?

>Sorry, after your mysterious shoe metaphor, whatever else you
>were saying kind of stopped making sense.
>
>Want to try again ?

Probably not.  By now he's probably checked you out on DejaNews and at
http://www.cheetah.net/assholes/005.html and learned all he needs to
learn about your credibility.  

Nice try, though.    :)

--
 ~  Jafo                           http://bounce.to/jafo

LAListener wrote:

> Former Army Captain and Bronze Star winner for Meritorious Service
> Gray Davis seeks to maintain unbroken chain of military veterans who
> served as California's chief executive.... Gray's opponent, who requested and
> received a student deferment from military service 

This line of reasoning didn't work for Bob Dole vs. Bill Clinton, so
why do you think it applies now? 

John Reece
Not an Intel spokesman

Jafo wrote:
> 
> As viewed from alt.california on Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:36:22 -0800,
> hc23hc@artlink.ne wrote:
> 
> >Dan O wrote:
> >> ? What's with the insult? How about arguing the issues?
> 
> >Sorry, after your mysterious shoe metaphor, whatever else you
> >were saying kind of stopped making sense.
> >
> >Want to try again ?
> 
> Probably not.  By now he's probably checked you out on DejaNews and at
> http://www.cheetah.net/assholes/005.html and learned all he needs to
> learn about your credibility.
> 
> Nice try, though.    :)
> 
> --
>  ~  Jafo                      

Someone had you in mind, too, Jafo :
http://www.theonion.com/onion3413/suckingmycock.html

It's incredibly DeJa-fo all over again.

Willwork4food wrote:
> 
> hc23hc@arthlink.ne wrote:
> 
> > Jafo wrote:
> > >
> > > As viewed from alt.california on Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:36:22 -0800,
> > > hc23hc@artlink.ne wrote:
> > >
> > > >Dan O wrote:
> > > >> ? What's with the insult? How about arguing the issues?
> > >
> > > >Sorry, after your mysterious shoe metaphor, whatever else you
> > > >were saying kind of stopped making sense.
> > > >
> > > >Want to try again ?
> > >
> > > Probably not.  By now he's probably checked you out on DejaNews and at
> > > http://www.cheetah.net/assholes/005.html and learned all he needs to
> > > learn about your credibility.
> > >
> > > Nice try, though.    :)
> > >
> > > --
> > >  ~  Jafo
> >
> > Someone had you in mind, too, Jafo :
> > http://www.theonion.com/onion3413/suckingmycock.html
> >
> > It's incredibly DeJa-fo all over again.
> 
> haahhahahahahaha....
> great site!!!!  I stole liberally from it, as you will see....


Something tells me Jafo will have a field day with the
phrase "stole liberally", and set about diverting attention
as far as he can from his rear-view Sapphic Youth fixation.

Being a Vietnam Vet means NOTHING. Bot McCain and Davis were GREAT in
their service to our nation, and BOTH have turned AGAINST the Constitution
when it comes to the inalienable RIGHT to own firearms.

Gruff

hc23hc@arthlink.ne wrote:

> Jafo wrote:
> >
> > As viewed from alt.california on Tue, 27 Oct 1998 16:36:22 -0800,
> > hc23hc@artlink.ne wrote:
> >
> > >Dan O wrote:
> > >> ? What's with the insult? How about arguing the issues?
> >
> > >Sorry, after your mysterious shoe metaphor, whatever else you
> > >were saying kind of stopped making sense.
> > >
> > >Want to try again ?
> >
> > Probably not.  By now he's probably checked you out on DejaNews and at
> > http://www.cheetah.net/assholes/005.html and learned all he needs to
> > learn about your credibility.
> >
> > Nice try, though.    :)
> >
> > --
> >  ~  Jafo
>
> Someone had you in mind, too, Jafo :
> http://www.theonion.com/onion3413/suckingmycock.html
>
> It's incredibly DeJa-fo all over again.

haahhahahahahaha....
great site!!!!  I stole liberally from it, as you will see....

Ben wrote:

> Viewed in alt.california, on Thr, 29 Oct 1998 22:0042 -0800,
> In Subject: Re: Vietnam Vet Runs for Governor - Opponent Dodged the
> Draft, hc23hc@arthlink.ne posted:
>
>         Notice: below is a post of a link made by hc/Slick.
>         hc's link contains blatant offensive and pornographic
>         material.
>
>
>         <Deleted text to shed some light on hc's dark side>
>
> hc posted this link for to insult another poster:
> >http://www.theonion.com/onion3413/suckingmycock.html
>
> hc's link, in pertinent part, is as follows:
> >I swear, if these homosexuals don't take a hint and quit sucking my cock
> >all the time, I'm going to have to resort to drastic measures--like maybe
> >pinning them down to the cement floor of the loading dock with my powerful
> >forearms and working my cock all the way up their butt so they understand loud
> >and clear just how much I disapprove of their unwelcome advances. I mean, you
> >can't get much more direct that that.
>
> Big mistake hc. As I have said in the recent past, you have some sort
> of perverted love affair with rectal/anal body parts. BTW, how the
> hell did you ever find this sort of literature? Seems to me you do
> have a life outside alt.california....
>
> Ben . .

you really should have clicked through to the home page and read the rest of the
site.  There are some really hilarious spoofs there.  Of course, you do realize
that the post she posted was a spoof????  A bit of satire?  I thought it was really
funny.  And I found several things else where to repost too.  Lighten up a bit.
Your starting to sound like Jafo...

Will...