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Article #1803Re: L.A. Times Survey
From: Paul Barton-Davis
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 19:25
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 1994 19:25
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In article <RLM.94Jun5223150@helen.surfcty.com> rlm@helen.surfcty.com (Robert L. McMillin) writes:
>On 04 Jun 1994 03:12:19 PST, jpietras@netcom.com (Joseph C. Pietras) said:
>> 2) I do not want my original idea to be lost in a debate
>> over whether I am a Luddite. (Thou I must confess I
>> don't know what a Luddite is - really I don't, I assume
>> someone with passionate believes about the environment).
>
>A Luddite is a person who wants to destroy technology out of massive
>paranoia. Their brethren read and believe such periodicals as the
>{UFO Journal} and even the {Weekly World News}.
Oh, such ignorance. Here's a better explanation. Perhaps you could
read a new book, or two:
"'Everyone believes the United States is in the midst of an
economic transformation on the order of the Industrial
Revolution,' _Business Week_ noted recently. But this fashionable
analogy between today's second and yesterday's first Industrial
Revolution is only half complete: the catastrophe has been left
out. The prospect of another epoch-making historical leap thus
generates simple-minded delight among those managers who seek to
enlarge their authority at the expense of workers; among those
equipment vendors whose high-tech hype enchants the unsuspecting;
among those manchild technical enthusiasts who are encouraged to
indulge their socially irresponsible fantasies at public expense;
among those system-building militarists who imagine security
through strength through silicon; among those trade unionists who
remain handicapped by the hallucinogenic homilies of technological
progress; and among those ambitiously neoprogressive politicians
whose rosy rhetoric belies their ignorance of that first 'great
transformation' -- 'a world turned upside down,' contemporaries
soberly described it -- and the mass insurrection that flowed in
its wake. For a more complete analogy would shake the spirit not
stir it, and give thoughtful people pause. It has been forgotten
in the present paeans to progress that the earlier episode was
stained in blood as well as grease and that it engendered not only
passive immiseration but active rebellion."
The above quote is from _Progress without People: In Defense of
Luddism_ by David F. Noble (Charles H. Kerr, 1993). The book is
mostly essays questioning what "progress" means and motives behind
the drive to automate. A key element of the book is a recasting of
the machine-wrecking actions at the beginning of the 19th century,
perpetrated in the name of mythical characters General (Ned) Ludd
and Captain Swing. The Luddites were not against machines or
"technology." They were against starving. The term "Luddite" as it
survives into the late 20th century allied with a simplistic total
anti-technology stance does those who originally bore the moniker
a misservice.
_Progress without People_ also includes a summary of Noble's
important study of the development of numerical control machinery
under the aegis of the Air Force.
Its a great book, even unto the appendices: Byron in the house of
lords against the death penalty for "machine-breaking," and
Norbert Weiner's late '40s warning to the UAW of the pending
problems for labor with the coming automation (and the terse
response). Write: Charles H. Kerr Publishing Company, P.O. Box
914, Chicago, Illinois 60690.
-- paul
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