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Re: L.A. Times Survey

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From: Joseph C. Pietras
Date: Wed, 25 May 1994 21:15
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In ca.general you write:

>Lynn Smith, a reporter, needs your help on a brief survey:
>1. Who qualifies as a hero for you? Why? Who qualifies as a jerk and why?
>2. What's the root cause of our social problems and how can we fix it?
Root cause:
The Government! Why?
1) Our Country - and the US Government - fought and won 3 (or 4)
   world (i.e. global) wars this century, I, II, and the Cold war
   and - some might argue - the Gulf War (I know it doesn't rate
   the same classification).  If you are going to have Global 
   conflict you must have huge supplies, budgets, etc.  Given all
   of this you must have huge Government.  I do **NOT** suggest
   we get rid of the military, just the Government.  The only sensible
   outcome of continued growth of Government is socialism, hence loss
   of freedom, hence loss of dignity, "can do" spirit, etc., etc.
   hence social problems. 
      (I just left a contract programming job at NCR (now ATT-GIS).  Many
      there were given attractive packages to leave voluntarily, up to 
      $40,000. Lots of moaning and groaning - NOT ONE OF THE SIX 
      PEOPLE I TALKED IN DEPTH TO HAD THE ATTITUDE OF: What an opportunity
      to go back to school, learn some new skills, and move onward
      and upward!)
   We have become like the Governments we fought against.
   People in those
   countries did not (and have not yet learned to) rely
   upon their own abilities.
   Americans have been conditioned similarly.
   To fight the communists we needed experienced
   Congress members - at least a solid core of them - but this is no longer 
   true.
   Currently only 
   lawyers are elected to Congress - by a vast majority.  Why not educators,
   plumbers, reporters, engineers, bakers, etc...  because the commies will
   get us! We have a Government of the lawyers, by the lawyers, for the
   lawyers. I DO NOT BUY THE ARGUMENT THAT GOVERNMENT REQUIRES PROFESSIONALS!
   THE GOVERNMENT WE HAVE TODAY COULD NOT HAVE CAUSED A WORSE MESS THAN IF THE
   GOVERNMENT WAS PEOPLED BY GREEDY, POWER HUNGRY INDIVIDUALS WHO CONSTANTLY 
   PUT THEIR OWN NEEDS AHEAD OF THE INTERESTS OF THE PEOPLE THEY ARE SUPPOSED
   TO REPRESENT!
2) The constitution is "old" - 200+ years and it has had lots of 
   "patches" - amendments and laws that fill numerous libraries.  We should
   re-write it!!  Yes, a constitutional convention.
Solutions?
   I don't presume to suggest I have the knowledge to write a new one -
   enlightended leaders and leadership is wanted.
   I do think we need to recognize that today,
   unlike 200 years ago, there are five (5), not three (3), powers:
	1) the Populace - COMPLETELY UNREPRESENTED IN CONGRESS!
	2) the Congress which acts only in self interest
	3) the Executive branch
	4) the Judicial branch
	5) the Media - and other hi tech/communications systems
   Write a new constitution that addresses our current reality!
   Life, Liberty and pursuit of happiness are great - why not 
   add polution/chemical/Electro Magnetic Fields free environment.
>3. What are your plans for marriage and family, based on your own personal
>experiences?

>Please email your replies here or to 3666973@mcimail.com

>Thanks again for your help!


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From: jpietras@netcom.com (Joseph C. Pietras)
Subject: Re: L.A. Times Survey
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