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In article <dmd.96.000E2979@dis.anl.gov> dmd@dis.anl.gov (Dana Dominiak) writes:
>In article <3iokef$69o@agate.berkeley.edu> Tommy the Tourist (Anon User) <nobody@csua.berkeley.edu> writes:

>Being black, Jewish, or afflicted with a disease (bronchitis or asthma) is NOT 
>voluntary.  Smoking is.  Being black, Jewish, or afflicted with bronchitis or 
>asthma does NOT mean you're stupid or less of a human being... however, being 
>a smoker...

Calling a smoker less of a human being is no worse than calling somebody
a communist or statist?  You do not do your position well, and show the
true origination of your beliefs.

Bronchitis/asthma *is* a disability.  That means that it will impair you.
In this case it impairs you from being around smoke.  As long as the
smokers don't smoke in places that are designated smoke-free they
are not being incosiderate.

Not having use of your legs is also a disability.  It impairs you from
driving most cars.  Does this mean we need to mandate that all cars
have solely hand controls?  Having pedals on cars impairs their freedom
and is completely unnecessary. 

>Smokers inflict there own injuries upon themselves, while also being 
>inconsiderate to other people.

Claims of being inconsiderate are highly overrated I think.  If an
area is designated as being a smoke-free area, lighting up would be
inconsiderate.  I don't personally know any smokers who would do this.
Any smoker I have had in my home has offered to go outside before
even reaching for their cigarettes.

However, if a private owner should decide that smoking be allowed in
his resturaunt, lighting up is *not* inconsiderate.  Those that have
a problem with smoke can take their business elsewhere at the first
sign of a smoker *without any harm done to them*.  I am one of those
people.

>There is no possible LOGICAL way to defend 
>this, therefore, smokers have to resort to calling people who disagree with 
>them 'communists'.

1) I am not a smoker.

2) I have never called anyone a communist, or a statist.  The worst
   insult I have used is pointing out that debate skills are severely
   lacking in most of the opposition.

>Excuse me, I'm going to drink some poison and then spray the caffeteria with 
>some insectacides... or maybe I'll just have a smoke, same difference.

See above comment about debate skills.  This analogy does not
correlate to the private business owner.

The more I debate this, the stronger my position gets.
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