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c551531@showme.missouri.edu wrote:

> No, I'd like others not to subject me to flowers and horses in 
> enclosed  public places, and I'd like my neighbors to quit 
> cultivating grass.

Do the restaurants you frequent have a lot of horses *INSIDE* 
them? Do the horse owners throw a hissy fit when you suggest that 
maybe they ought to leave their horses outside where they won't 
bother anyone?  Do they throw a tantrum and claim to have a 
"right" to spoil your meal and make you nauseous?

Do your neighbors take their grass-growing addiction with them 
wherever they go, and insist on inflicting it upon others?  Do 
they cut and dry some of it, then burn it at their table so that 
everyone can enjoy the lovely aroma?  (What class of plants do 
you think tobacco belongs to, anyway?)
 
> Wrong again, Bermuda-breath. Horses and grass are not activites; 
> this is  true. Riding horses, showing horses, breeding horses, 
> decorative  horticulture are activities, and last time I checked, 
> they weren't  non-volitional.  

Then try to get a law passed against these things, if you can 
prove they're harmful to innocent bystanders.  At least the horse 
and grass "industries" probably won't spend millions of dollars 
to oppose the law by drafting a bogus ballot proposition like 
the out-of-state tobacco pushers *TRIED* in California.
 
> No, I'm saying its hypocritical horsehit to protect people who 
> are  sensitive to tobacco smoke while not protecting people who 
> are subject to  other environmental incidentals.

So you're saying that nobody should be protected from anything 
until we're able to protect everyone from everything?
 
> So you say, along with some flawed EPA studies. But, I don't 
> recall the poster to whom I had responding mentioning cancer, but 
> rather people whose sensitivity to tobacco smoke kept them from 
> some places.

"Flawed EPA studies", huh?  So second-hand tobacco is really OK 
to breathe?  Next you'll be claiming that the earth is flat, we 
never went to the moon, and Elvis is still alive on the theory 
that some Government Conspiracy (tm) produced all the "flawed" 
evidence supporting these things.

> Furthermore, I never said horses and grass cause 
> cancer; I said  that other people's optional activities involving 
> these elements do, in  fact, make me sick. The people who do 
> these things are morons and murderers.

Let's not go overboard with your "tolerance".  So how should 
these "murderers" with horses and lawns be executed?  Oops, if 
they're also "morons", they can probably get off by pleading 
"insanity".
 
> Incidentally, the vast majority of people don't need special 
> equipment in restrooms, ramps, etc. The ADA, which is what was 
> being discussed, however, requires these. Now, before you say 
> that I'm being discriminatory, let me assure you that I am in 
> favor of such accomodations within reason, just as I have no 
> objections to refraining  from smoking in many situations.

Your fellow smokers were obviously not so considerate, or the law 
we're discussing would not have been necessary.  It's people with 
the attitude "I'll smoke my damn cigarette anywhere I please and 
if it harms you, that's just too damned bad.  I've got my 
rights...", that made this law necessary.  Even the restaurant 
industry supported it!  I suspect that they don't like spending 
money repairing cigarette burns on their upholstery and carpet, 
and cleaning tobacco soot from their walls and ceilings.

> The point is that we've become a nation  of whiners, and dammit, 
> I wish the EPA would do some fucked-up study on  the effects of 
> that.  

Like you people who WHINE about having to forego your nicotine 
habit for a WHOLE HOUR?  Poor babies!  Maybe you can find some 
other phallic substitute to suck on in the meantime.
 
> Have a nice trip, Tommy. It's clear that you're on one.
 
Hurry up and log off, or you'll miss your smoking break.

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and a night scope.  My dad is a  gunsmith.  He's a Class III gunsmith,
but he's not too picky about that.

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