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Re: Is our election system unfair?

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From: halasz
Date: Tue, 06 Jun 1995 00:00
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Pangster wrote:
: Lets say there were only two parties, "A" and "B".  If 49% of the people
: in each electoral district voted for Party A, and 51% voted for Party B,
: this would result in ALL of the Party B candidates winning every seat in
: Parliament.  Party B, therefore, would have a majority (100%) government.
: Yet, 49% of the population chose Party A.

In article <3qt1j7$d6m@crl3.crl.com>, dk@crl.com (David A. Kaye) writes:
> This is the way the U.S. system works, which is why the politics of this 
> country swing back and forth every few years.  I'd like to see an 
> at-large representation where if 30% of the voters voted for the American 
> Independent Party and maybe 11% went with the Communist Party, they'd get 
> representation, too.  In watching European governments play politics, I 
> think coalition governments are much healthier and actually give a little 
> better stability.

I believ that where neither Democrat nor Republican is in overwhelmind
majoritie, it is better to think of one partie, Demrep if you will.  The
Demreps doo their best through ballot-writing laws to ensure that no other
partie gains pouer (not that this alwais works).  Therefore, discussion of
more than one real partie is often moot.

Nonethless, it is a general principal of our (the USA s) electional laws
that there are no parties.  Onlie individuals fill offices, not parties.
If we cling to this tradition (and I want to, for I feel the same ill-eaz
as the framers and their and the former generation felt in the matter of
partie), the European solution is out.  Instead, I want one of these:
	1: For office choozing as manie candidates as one wishes; this lets
one pick all of those that one likes, and none of the rest.  There is no
need to pick _one_ best one.  In Korea sumfew years ago, this scheme would
hav forestalld the problem of the twain Kims.  The majoritie wanted other
than the incumbent, but twain Kims ran against him (thei were kin), and the
people randomlie voted for one or the other, and the incumbent wun.
	I wish one stipulation, that if no candidate gets at least 2 5ths of
the vote, the election is invalid, and the candidate who got the most votes
is droppd from the ballot, for a distraction from real choice, and there is
a new election.
	2: In effect, all ballots are thrown into a huge urn, and one is at
random drawn, and that candidate is elected.  If honestlie drawn, the
likliness of drawing one or another reflects the vote.  In the long run,
all voters are reprezented.

But, houevver elected, the candidate can turn corrupt.
It is not wize to allou anie official, houevver chozen, too much pouer.

At-large officials are not good, for local opinion is not reflected.
Damn the big parties!
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From: halasz@caip.rutgers.edu
Subject: Re: Is our election system unfair?
Date: 1995/06/06
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