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Article #20734Re: The new 105 stupid fway
From: Chuck Karish
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 00:00
Date: Fri, 12 May 1995 00:00
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In article <3ouucp$s4c@gap.cco.caltech.edu>,
David H. Close <dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu> wrote:
>kEN Colburn wrote:
>
>> Who's the mental giant that put in a new,fastmoving freeway (the 105 in
>> LA) and then put STOPLIGHTS where it merges w/ other fways so cars back up
>> for a MILE,wasting gas and spewing more crap in our smog?
An engineer who understands that allowing the traffic from that
fast-moving freeway to try to merge onto the other freeways in
big groups would make BOTH freways back up.
>> i bet they don't remove the lights cuz they don't want to prove what
>> fools they were for putting them in.
There's a simple way to tell whether the freeways work better with
or without the lights: turn 'em off and see what happens. It's
been tried, and the observation is that properly-timed metering
lights increase the carrying capacity of the freeways.
>Freeway flow control (the "meters" on on-ramps) is basically a way to
>allow traffic originating in the suburbs priority over local traffic.
Baloney. When long lines of cars try to jam into a freeway
all at once, traffic bogs down for everybody. You can see this
effect where one lane of a freeway is coned off for repairs.
Traffic may be flowing well in three lanes, then go to stop-and-go
while the cars merge into two lanes. After the merge the same
number of cars can often go almost as fast in two lanes as they did in
three; it's the merge itself that is the problem. Feeding cars
in one or two at a time keeps this from happening at onramps.
--
Chuck Karish karish@mindcraft.com 415 323 9000 x117
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,fc589d52302d5f26 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public From: karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish) Subject: Re: The new 105 stupid fway Date: 1995/05/12 Message-ID: <3p07il$bk5@news.internex.net> X-Deja-AN: 102501290 references: <ezwriterD8CJy1.FD7@netcom.com> <gooshie-1105951807460001@ana1033.deltanet.com> <3ouucp$s4c@gap.cco.caltech.edu> organization: Mindcraft, Inc. newsgroups: ca.general