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Re: California Smoking Law Violations

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From: Chris Fodor
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 18:00
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In article <3hjm9a$a0c@agate.berkeley.edu> Tommy the Tourist (Anon User) <nobody@csua.berkeley.edu> writes:
>cfodor@megatek.com (Chris Fodor) wrote:
>It isn't "whether they will have smokers", because they will. 
>They already do, even the ones that enforce the No Smoking law. 
>It's strictly a matter of whether these smokers will be allowed 
>to smoke during the limited time they're there.  Would you 
>similarly support the "right" of a business owner to invite 
>members of the KKK, complete with hoods and sheets, over in order 
>to keep blacks away?  Does a business owner have the "right" to 
>build barriers around his/her front door to keep people in 
>wheelchairs out?

I've thought about this long and hard, and I'm afraid they do.

The KKK, however misguided, has the right to a parade down main
street.  Sure these people are bigots and idiots, and I wish
their entire ideology would fade away.  Enforcing the removal
of an ideology is both outside the scope of a democracy and
outside the scope of this discussion.

>Please remember that a smoker can abstain from smoking for the 
>duration of a meal, but a person with chronic asthma can't stop 
>breathing for that period of time.  Putting up a sign saying 
>"Come and break the law by smoking here" has a similar effect on 
>such a person as one that says, "KKKers, Neo-nazis, and Skinheads 
>welcome! Ni**ers stay away!" would have on blacks.  Or is that OK 
>with you?

It's not ok with me and I wouldn't frequent such a store.

It seems to be ok with the constitution, if you've seen that.

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Subject: Re: California Smoking Law Violations
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