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William Y Huang (wyhuang@raman.ucsd.edu) wrote:
> Actually the Mex. men who come here work hard .... I think they put
> in a lot more than they take out (if not by paying taxes, then by
> providing downward wage pressure to save us money).  The problem
> are the illegal women .... they come here just to have babies and 
> milk the welfare system.

 True enough, there is a net MONETARY economic benefit. 

 I think the more sublime issue(s) with 187 involves the economic 
 "social costs" with having the illegals over here. To wit;

   a.  Hospitals have an "open door" policy towards illegal aliens --
       An illegal alien is "given" better, if not equal, health 
       care as LEGAL (ie; state and federal income tax paying 
       NON-INSURED US citizens). Why should the country and state 
       at large pay this, with the country of Mexico not affording the
       same benefits in return to US citizens?  HINT -- It's NOT
       because Mexico CAN'T...It's because they WON'T.
 
   b.  There is a "surfacing" of abuses of this policy -- Rich 
       (yes, rich, landowning, business owning, college-educated, 
       Mercedez Benz driving) Mexicans coming across the border for free 
       obstetrics and operations, claiming to be poor. THOUSANDS of them.
 
   c.  Unappreciative illegal aliens getting a lions share of media 
       coverage (ie; the famous "Mexican flags over Figeroa St."
       incident).
 
   d.  The amount of benefits received is rather large, statistically,
       per illegal citizen ($15B / 4M illegal aliens = $1,250 / per 
       illegal alien per year).
 
   e.  There is a huge social cost towards having a population of 
       approx. 4 million people per year living at poverty 
       level  (crime, tuberculosis, STD's, prostitution,
       drugs, etc...).
  
  The basic philosophy of 187 is that it recognizes that Mexicans aren't
  stupid and helpless. It recognizes that there is a $15B+ "entitlement"
  program which we are not going to shell out anymore to anyone who comes
  across the border illegally. If a Mexican citizen comes in to St. John's
  Hospital with a broken leg, (s)he will be helped. If the same citizen
  comes in with a runny nose, (s)he will not.
 
  The legeslative intent of 187 (hence, its ambiguity in places) was to
  leave "holes" such that the California public officials charged with 
  implementing 187 policy can implement it somewhat "at their own 
  discretion" -- ie; teachers "should" report pupils that are illegal 
  illegal aliens...and so on and so forth.

  If anyone cares to argue these points, let's go.

  --
 
Kevin Carothers   kevin@drogges.tti.com