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In article <andybrwnCz3Koz.9uM@netcom.com>,
Andrew Brown <andybrwn@netcom.com> wrote:
>
>187 is clearly aimed at preventing illegal immigration.  That's the third 
>major statement in the legislative intent of the proposition.  Its 
>printed right at the beginning of the proposition.  If you haven't read 
>it, I can send you a copy.

Don't tell me.  You believe info-mercials too, don't you!?
Thought so!
That's political salesmanship.  Designed to help sell the bill!

>they go if they're barred from school?  Is it better to maintain classes 
>of undereducated people ... people who are likely to remain here ... or 
>is it better to give them at least some basic skills.  I seems to me that 
>poorly educated people are more likely to be a drain on the state because 
>they will end up on GA or commit some crime and be sent to prison.
>
>Finally, do you really think that 187 comports with the 14th amendment?  
>And doesn't the US Constitution, which you urge people to read, make the 
>control of immigration and naturalization the exclusive domaine of the 
>Federal Government?  Doesn't 187 cross the line by allegedly developing a 
>program in cooperation with the Feds to control immigration.  Doesn't 187 
>make school teachers and public health workers quasi-INS agents?

Who the hell cares?  

FACT:

Look, very few people want to deny ANYTHING to illegals and their kids.
Especially education and health-care.  And the reality is, 187 (or
any other law) isn't capable of stopping ANYBODY from getting an
education or health care, just to name a couple benefits.
Hell, there's a whole branch of the federal government dedicated to
keeping these people out of the country, which is a far more 
straightforward task than policing every school and hospital,
and they're failing (miserably) at it.

Doctors and teachers have already stated they won't deny medical care
to anybody, regardless of immigrant status.  Fine!  Great!
So DON'T deny anybody these services if you don't want to.
Who the hell cares!

Just don't make US (legal immigrants) pay for it!

If you have a Hippocratic oath that prevents you from turning
away a sick person, don't turn them away!  But do it on your
OWN time.  Pay for flu and TB shots with your own time and
money.  Teach kids to speak English, set up classrooms, run clinics 
for illegals, give money to poor people, etc.  But do it from
your OWN pocket, not mine!  Don't bother billing California,
'cause we're tired of paying for it.  It's called CHARITY if
I give it voluntarily.  It's called STEALING if you take it
from me without my consent.  I'll pitch in for shots for
illegals, and accept the responsibility for the consequences
if I don't give enough.  But taking it out of my paycheck
without my knowledge is dishonest.  And THAT'S what 187 is
all about!  IMHO :-)