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Robert S. Helfman (helfman@aerospace.aero.org) wrote:
: In article <mwise-0911941842320001@slip221.sirius.com> mwise@sirius.com (Michael Wise) writes:
: >> > All of the individuals listed, with the possible exception of Pete
: >> > Wilson, are clearly right-wing Republicans. I have not heard of any of
: >> > the organizations listed, and SOS would not respond to my request for
: >> > an expansion of the acronyms.
: >
: >> wow, i guess 55% of californian voters are right-wing republicans!
: >
: >Make that 59%.

: No, it's 59% of California voters are dupes of right-wing republicans and
: the white-supremacist organizations that were behind 187. 

Sure, go ahead and label it. It suits your fallacious argument. If you 
have fallen prey to those that call it racist, I feel sorry for you.

: This is not
: the first time California voters have been hoodwinked like this. In the
: 1960's, a proposition made it LEGAL to discriminate in who you could sell
: your house to and who you could rent to. It was, of course, struck down in
: the courts. It's always amazing to me that voters have so little
: understanding and knowledge of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights that
: they can't see that propositions like this are unconstitutional on their
: face. Plyler vs. Doe (a Texas case)  decided this crap already in the
: Supreme Court. And since this court, conservative as it is, is very
: hesitant to overturn precedent, I suspect it will strike down 187 as well.


Fine. The decision was 5-4. Let's test it out, why do you oppose that? 
Give it a chance in court. If it's found to be okay, then it is 
implemented, as BY THE VOTERS' CHOICE. If not, we throw it out. Simple.

: If the voters were just trying to send a message, it would have been a lot
: cheaper to have just built a fence at the border and beef up the Border
: Patrol, which is what Clinton has been doing of late. Instead, the money
: will be squandered on lawyers' fees (from both sides). Sheesh!

: America, how many steps backward do we have to take for every step forward?
: At the rate we're going, we'll never get there.

Yup. It doesn't get to the root of the problem. But it does satisy 
taxpayers to some extent, and they have the right to determine where 
their money goes.

Besides, as you anti-187 people will claim that it will do nothing - then 
how do you explain this:

The Mexican government is currently drafting several programs to put 
illegals that return to Mexico to work building hospitals and educational 
facilities, to keep up the supply that will be needed for the influx of 
people returning (as they believe will eventually happen.)





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