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In ca.general helfman@aerospace.aero.org (Robert S. Helfman) writes:

>Michael Huffington's ads and Pete Wilson's ads are some of the most
>intolerant, one-sided, smug things I'VE ever heard. And they lie.
>And they have no "redeeming social value" (as the Supreme Court would
>have put it), either. At least the anti-smoking ads aren't obscene.

Your honor, I move to strike as non-responsive to the question. The subject
was the anti-smoking ads. Almost all political ads are one-sided but at
least they aren't paid for by tax money!


>driving. BFD.

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And alcohol producers are allowed to respond with their own ads.

>Oh, so it's ok for elected representatives (most of whom are totally
>beholden to lobbyists) to NOT act in the public interest, but it's
>somehow suspect if the voters do it themselves?

Were you agreeing that voters were NOT acting in the public interest?

>As an ACLU member, I couldn't agree more. But I'll bet almost anything that
>YOU bad-mouth the ACLU at every possible opportunity.

I only object to the hypocrisy of being in favor of civil rights only
so long as those rights are politically correct. The ACLU does a lot
of useful things and its principles are on the right track.

I do resent being characterized in this way, merely because I'm trying
to defend a position (against tax-supported propaganda) which the ACLU
should also defend, and has on other issues.

>I could have GUESSED - Orange County!

I've lived many places, and in OC only for about a year. One goes where
the jobs are and where the quality of life is personally attractive.
Moving to OC didn't change my politics, and (unfortunately) I haven't
had much impact on OC either.

One measure of maturity and intelligence might be the ability to step
back from things which benefit one's self and apply general principles
impartially. I don't like smoke, I do approve of the initiative
process, I support free enterprise advertising, but I oppose these
ads as an inappropriate use of governmental power.

There, was I reasonable enough to keep this discussion on the subject?
-- 
Dave Close, Compata, Costa Mesa CA	"Politics is the business of getting
dave@compata.ccss.com, +1 714 434 7359	 power and privilege without
dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu		 possessing merit." - P. J. O'Rourke