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Re: A Veto's Victims

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From: Mark Hartman
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 22:06
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On Fri Jul 22 08:25:12 PDT 1994, kmdavis@netcom.com (Karen M. Davis)
writes:

>Lots of drivel deleted :-(

I find it interesting, Karen, that before you attack my posting with
the following irrelevant and _ad hominem_ arguments, the "drivel" you
delete consists almost entirely of sections of the post to which I
responded.  Even I would not call that post "drivel;" I simply
disagree with the poster trying to take advantage of his friend's
meaningless death to advance his political and (a)moral agenda.

>Now, stupid - tell me why this woman should suffer (composite patient of
>some of the many that my mother cared for before this got to be too
>much, and she *left* NURSING: 
>
>Alice is a 72 year old, white, widow. She was a virgin when she married
>her husband (she was 19, he was 22). Both were monogamous throughout
>their married lives - when he died, her sex life ended. Neither did IV
>drugs, in fact, Joe was a respected <engineer | accountant | lawyer> for
>a prominent local firm. The catch? Alice is dying of AIDS - in fact,
>Alice has left than 6 months left to live. 
>
>TELL ME, MEATHEAD - WHAT DID ALICE DO WRONG? WHAT DID HER HUSBAND DO
>WRONG?

Although your question is obviously not directed to me, I will answer
it: Nothing.  Where did you get the idea that I am attacking people
who have AIDS?

Let me summarize my previous post for people like Karen who would
rather attack it than read it: Doing stupid things can get you killed.
Protecting people from the consequences of actions that they have
had plenty of opportunity to learn are dangerous, does nothing to
help that person in the long run, and is harmful to society at large,
since there are many actions which have negative consequences that
one cannot be protected from.

>Meatheads like you need to get your brains out of your posteriors - this
>is no longer a "gay" or "drug user" disease - it has escaped into the
>general populace, and will kill us all at the rate things are going.

Perhaps you should read the post that I rebutted.  It was that poster
who told us all that the AIDS virus was transmitted, in this particular
case, through needle-sharing.  Am I therefore biased, in your opinion,
for saying, "gee, that was a stupid thing to do"?

If so, perhaps the appellation "meathead" should be reserved by you
for someone much closer to home.

>By the way, I support not only needle exchanges, but also old-fashioned
>*quarantine* for HIV+/AIDS people who refuse to take necessary
>precautions to avoid infecting others.

If quarantine had been politically acceptable when better than 99% of
AIDS cases were confined to a certain community that one dare not
criticize lest one be branded "----phobic," AIDS would not now be the
problem that it now is, nor the threat to the general public that you
so accurately point out.

Yes, there are a lot of completely innocent AIDS victims out there.
There are even a lot more AIDS victims who, while not completely
innocent, are by AIDS "punished" completely out of proportion to
their fault - like Susan Zwick.  She did a stupid thing, and paid
a price completely out of proportion to it.

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Mark Hartman, N6BMO | E-mail:  emmayche@apple.com | AOL: emmayche
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