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From: Gary L Dare
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 16:57
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1993 16:57
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Nathan Newman <newman@garnet.berkeley.edu> wrote: >Robert L. McMillin <rlm@helen.surfcty.com> wrote: >>> Ra> 1) Do you really want a health care program like Canada's? >Since state-run health care systems in Canada and Europe are less costly >and serve more people than our health care system, the religious fervor is >among those who claim that the government can't run health care efficiently. Much of the religeous fervor involves ignorance among Americans left and right that others' systems are entirely state-run, and don't work out of uncritically accepted propaganda about Canada (which is near the bottom of most Americans' consideration on the best of days). Some are, like Britain's National Health Service. However Canada, France and Germany have mixes of only public and private insurance (ranging from some to all medical treatments, but better amenities are entirely private) paying out to private fee-for-service doctors and hospitals. Canada has suffered from geographic disadvantages relative to the U.S., France and Germany which drives up our costs in many areas besides health insurance and health care. A Gallup poll released on 9/13 and published only in UPI Clarinet had 96% (yes, that's ninety-six) of Canadians of the opinion that our system up north is better than that of America ... the difference lies in the ways we do insurance, or sickness funds of you'd rather the more appropriate German term, since the health infrastructures are the same barring geographic differences (The U.S. has 10X population more evenly distributed ... Canada only has 4 cities over a half million west of the Great Lakes). Only 2% of Canadians want the insurance system changed over to an American approach, which is down from the traditional 3% consistently polled by the conservative Decima Research annually for Maclean's magazine. The Economist is consistent with the post-ideological view in other western countries that medical needs are not entirely commodity like ownership of a VCR such as Americans see it; however, there are some market-oriented or market-preserving ways to do it, and the best that we've come up with so far are the three non-U.S. countries cited. gld -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Gary L. Dare Canada, 10/25: Liberals or > gld@columbia.EDU Progressive Conservatives > gld@cunixc.BITNET ONLY ... just do it!!!
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