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In article <21buiu$ds@gateway.rosedale.org>, aalbert@rosedale.org (alix) writes:
> longo@sfpp.com (Bob Longo) writes:
> >Good luck.  At least for the next 3.5 years.  We are now stuck in a situation
> >that will be difficult to impossible to get out of.  You don't think the
> >democrats currently in power are going to let us do away with one of their
> >favorite programs, do you?  After all, big government keeps them in work.  Heck
> >- if my job was a polititian and I could buy votes by giving money to people, I
> >would be just about guaranteed that those people would keep voting for me so
> >I'd keep my give-away program alive and keep giving them money.
> 
> 	you're right about politicians "buying" votes.  however, you are
> 	badly informed as to whose votes.  you think welfare mothers are
> 	a powerful voting block?  where did you pick that one up?
> 
> 	and we might as well not limit the buying of votes to democrats.

Have you ever examined the vote totals, precinct by precinct in a big
city?  Some years back, I managed the campaign of the Libertarian
candidate for 28th Congressional district -- basically, Watts, Culver
City, Inglewood.  The Democrat, Mervyn Dymally, didn't even bother to
run a campaign -- why bother?  The Republican, also black, didn't
bother to run a campaign either.  I didn't understand why there was
so little concern about the election until I started examining the
voting results in the inner city precincts.  In precinct after precinct,
it would be 300-400 votes for the Democrat, 4-8 votes for the Republican,
and 1-2 votes for the Libertarian candidate.

It sounds like a lock for the Democrats to me.

> >A few steps that could be taken to get things back under control; 1) illegal
> >aliens should not be entitled to ANY benefits (medical, school, welfare, etc.)
> >2) children of illegals should not automatically be citizens and also should
> >not be entitled to any freebies. 3) current welfare recipients should be
> >given notice that they have 1 year left.  4) no new welfare recipients.
> >In one year, presto!  Problem solved!
> 
> 	what problem does that solve?  (aside from the fact that most ille-
> 	gals actually work and aren't on welfare anyway).
> 
> 	-alix

It solves the problem of wanting a fast solution to a difficult
problem.

1. While illegal aliens are less likely to be on welfare than 
American citizens (many of whom are lazy), it is certainly true 
that anyone who isn't here legally, shouldn't have a claim for 
welfare.  It certainly encourages people to come here for no good
reason.

2. Changing the citizenship rule of jus solis seems like a darn
poor idea.

3. The fundamental causes of AFDC are usually drug addicted fathers
(and sometimes mothers) unwilling to be responsible for their
children.

4. Yesterday's Press-Democrat carried a wire service story about
how the SSI program is being abused by drug addicts and alcoholics
that get on the program, and stay on, forever.  One of the admini-
strators, when interviewed about this, indicated that he couldn't
believe that anyone would go on SSI, and stay on it, instead of
finding a job.




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