🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <562931477@ofa123.fidonet.org> Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>In a message of <Mar 23 09:50>, laurie@sfc.sony.com (Laurie Bloomgarden)
>writes:
>
> >sorry if this has shown up before, I am having trouble posting.....
>
>Given the amount of disinformation given in your post it seems that posting
>isn't the only thing you are having trouble with.
>

Bitter? Too bad you begin what passes for your argument with a personal
slam. What is it with you people? Do you still wonder why you can't get
any respect (after lines like the above), or have you given up on whatever
used to pass for Christian decency? So after this little personal attack
you go on to say:

>I don't defend clinic bombimgs or other means of destruction including the
>murder in Florida.  Violence against clinics is wrong and should be punished. 
> But to say that there is no meaningful investigation going on is
>preposterous.  

I guess this will be alleged for the life of this thread, since neither
anti-abortion posters have been able to refute it. Logic 101: Merely
calling it preposterous does not make it so. Address the topic; convince and
convert us.

>But more egregiously the poster states the clinic blockaders should be
>penalized just like any other criminal.  Well, surprise, surprise, for you. 
>Not only are they being treated like any other criminal they are being treated 
>worse than that.  These people are engaging in peaceful non-violent protest
>and the police are using unnecessary pain-compliance holds which leads to
>permanent nerve damage.  LAPD has settled suits out of court involving
>injuries sustained when officers used nun-chuks.  There are suits still
>pending involving jailed blockaders awaiting being harassed by the jailers. 
>Unnecessary and unchaparoned strip searches of female blockaders by male
>police officers.  Insults and derisive language used against the blockaders
>and their relgious views.  Excessive bails set by judges with a pro-abortion
>agenda.  Judges issuing orders to the police on how blockaders were to be
>handled including threats of contempt of court bench warrants against any
>officer who failed to follow the judges' instructions.

What you call being treated worse than "any other criminal," I can't see 
as illegal, at least those claims of yours which I believe. LAPD using
nunchaku (note the spelling. Seems you have some trouble of your own, like
with English)? Hard to imagine. Perhaps you meant some other weapon. But
like your "preposterous" in the previous paragraph, the truth need not be 
shown. Christians can go a long way on faith; faith wins out over truth.
Check that "There are suits still pending..." sentence for syntax problems;
I'll wait to hear some evidence of the suits. Ditto for the next sentence
re: "unnecessary and unchaparoned ..." It's incomplete, grammatically.

I won't bother to read the rest. It's now too hilarious to believe that you
would attack some other poster's information with unsubstantiated and
exaggerated charges that you apparently don't even have the English skills
to enunciate.

>This is not fiction.  The facts are there and can be and have been confirmed.

Just not here. Like the creation of the world was fact, that can be confirmed.
And Pat Robertson flies, along with pigs.

>I say that is is time that blockaders be treated like the non-violent civil
>disobedient protesters that they are and nothing more.

After Gunn's death, trespassers, et al, this statement no longer applies.
You did not separate the violent blockaders from non-violent ones, thus
your logic is wrong.

Dan