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Article #22188Re: la metro
From: Larry.Mc.Donald
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1992 09:18
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1992 09:18
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(Adrian Brandt) sez:
> I agree. The private auto is not "mass transit". Up around where I
> live (SF Bay Area's Santa Clara County; aka Silicon Valley), the
> average vehicle occupancy has *dropped* below 1.1 people! If Mr. Close
> wants to argue that the auto is mass transit, then I'd like to know
> what he thinks isn't mass transit. Buses, trains, light rail, and
> ferry boats can and often do carry anywhere from 40 to 800 people each.
> If anything, the automobile commuter is the antithesis of mass
> transit! Sheesh.
What isn't mass transit is the bus system here in Orange
County. There are a couple of routes that get packed buses, but
most run buses capable of hauling 50 people with never more than
five on board! This is understandable since the OCTD never
allows a bus to just run straight down a street. I live on a
major street here and work on the same major street about three
miles away. With a car it usually takes me ten minutes to get
there with a total cost (in fuel) of about $0.30. There is a bus
which stops right in front of my apartment and also right in
front of my work, but it takes a scenic tour of neighbouring
cities while getting there. Total time: 1:15 hours. Total cost:
$1.00 each way. I can bicycle in <25 minutes and walk it in 45! I
think the OCTD is doing all they can to bury public mass transit
down here. They do things like run buses one direction only in
the morning and against traffic flow patterns, putting bus stops
every intersection so that even the buses that do take straight
routes take forever to get anywhere (straight down Harbor from
Costa Mesa to Fullerton: Car: 45 minutes, Bus: 2.5 hours!). I
wish that they would replace most of their buses with vans, since
the average van can hold the average ridership of the buses here.
They could even buy VW diesel vans so they don't have to give up
fouling the air.
Most routes here in OC have buses running once an hour and I
have found that most of the time, what with waiting for the bus
to come and with how long it takes to get anywhere, it's quicker
to walk. Or at least will run about the same time. The ONLY
exception to this was the Harbor route that takes 2.5 hours. It
probably would have taken me four hours to walk it, but then it's
one of the few routes in the county that doesn't deviate from the
one road.
There was a good plan to build a monorail system right down
the middle of most big streets here, but it was dismissed as
being too practical.
Now they are busy playing with the painted lines on the
freeways, which prompted me to sell my '70 Ford XL convertible
(240 six with FMX auto, 20 mpg for a boat). They narrowed the
lines on the 55 here so much that at one point that I was running
over the dots separating the lanes with BOTH sets of tires!
OC needs to be bulldozed, give the land back to the farmers,
and build something like Pablo Solari's mammoth city/building for
us all to live in.
... Larry.Mc.Donald, N6ZMB, Fullerton, California! <cough, cough>
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