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Article #22242Re: EARTHFIRST gathering. Rider wanted to share driving.
From: Mike Richey
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 16:00
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 16:00
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In article <1992Jul10.164851.9609@pbhya.PacBell.COM> whheydt@PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) writes: >In article <2A5CC116.26641@noiro.acs.uci.edu> mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey) writes: >>In article <1992Jul9.170051.1278@pbhya.PacBell.COM> whheydt@PacBell.COM (Wilson Heydt) writes: >>>A small addendum to my own remarks . . . >>> >>>A bomb is a very indiscriminate weapon. In that sense, it is a >>>consistent escalation of prior EF activity (that of targeting classes >>>rather than individuals) than of EFs opponents. >> >>Again, more assumptions. > >What, pray tell do you think I am assuming? > >That bombs are relatively indiscriminate weapons? They sure don't >'care' *who* is nearby when they go off and they'll get everyone >within their radius of action. > >That EF has tended to go after classes. 'Spiking' to prevent logging >is hardly targeting a specific individual. Destroying a transmission >tower has potential effects on every user tied to that line and the >cost of replacement will (ultimately) be born by the rate-payers of >the utility that owned it, or the taxpayers if it's publically owned. >Nothing very specifc there. > >What of EF's opponents? Charges are filed against *individuals* where >there is evidence of criminal activity. perhaps you've heard of suits >filed against EF members collectively or the organization as a whole >(I haven't, plus, as I recall no one seems to know very much about who >*is* an 'EF member'). > >Perhaps you mean that I'm assuming that the explosion in question >really was a bomb . . . Is there any particular doubt on that point? >(I'm *not* assuming that anyone in particular built/placed the device, >just pointing that there is logic and consistentcy in it being 'owned' >by EF folks.) > That EF! has taken to producing bombs. There is no evidence of this. period. it's been mentioned how some people who are not familiar with ef! may believe that the bombing incident may believe what has been in the press. > --Hal >-- >Hal Heydt | "Boycott Time-Warner" >Analyst, Pacific*Bell | --J. Danforth Quayle >510-823-5447 | "... kill all the lawyers." >whheydt@pbhya.PacBell.COM | --William Shakespeare
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,e89a72bb879c251 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-07-13 05:33:34 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!noiro.acs.uci.edu!mothra.nts.uci.edu!mrichey From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey) Subject: Re: EARTHFIRST gathering. Rider wanted to share driving. Nntp-Posting-Host: mothra.nts.uci.edu Message-ID: <2A61A8B3.11345@noiro.acs.uci.edu> Newsgroups: ca.general Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 51 Date: 13 Jul 92 16:00:52 GMT Distribution: ca References: <1992Jul9.170051.1278@pbhya.PacBell.COM> <2A5CC116.26641@noiro.acs.uci.edu> <1992Jul10.164851.9609@pbhya.PacBell.COM>