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Article #22284Re: EARTHFIRST gathering. Rider wanted to share driving.
From: Mike Richey
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1992 00:00
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1992 00:00
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In article <1992Jul8.194010.21715@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes: >In article <1992Jul8.162557.7503@pbhya.PacBell.COM> whheydt@PacBell.COM >(Wilson Heydt) writes: > >>EarthFirst! has acquired a reputation for being on te fringes of (if >>not actively involved in) 'violent' actions. Some power line towers >>in Arizona and numerous cases of tree spiking in NW California come to >>mind in this connection. > >The use of quotation marks in the preceding statement >seems to express acknowledgement of EarthFirst!'s >distinction between destruction of property and >violence against people. There is a difference of interpretation of what 'violence' is. even though the dictioary defines it as causing damage to some object other than what is alive. One rarely hears "someone caused violence against a Deere D9." > >>As there is a general trend that when you don't get your own way, to >>escalate the action (look at nearly all wars, rebellions, revolutions, >>and protest sequences), the suspicion that the EF folks were >>transporting an explosive device on their own is *extremely* tempting. >>The conclusion that this is so is nearly inescapable to anyone not an >>EF partisan to start with. > >The device in question was very much an antipersonnel weapon, >nails embedded in an explosive compound. I'd never heard >EarthFirst! even accused of advocating use of such weapons >before the Oakland incident. > Something interesting is how fast the authorities moved in to question people that had been active years before this incident, but hadn't been active for some time before the bombing. Conspiracy theory? - Nails were stolen from Judi's Garage? I'm not advocating this. those however that have had the experience of being followed, or looking over their shoulder may think this reasonable. >>That there is no proof of this one way or >>the other does nothing to remove the logic of the situation (nor to >>make in unjustified). > >EarthFirst!'s antagonists in Northern California have not >shied away from violence. This "logic" fits actions to be >expected from them better than it fits EarthFirst!. >-- > > Chuck Karish karish@mindcraft.com > (415) 323-9000 x117 karish@forel.stanford.edu True, some friends of mine have had violence perpetrated against them. Thank you for the words.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,e89a72bb879c251 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1992-07-08 12:07:50 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!usc!noiro.acs.uci.edu!mothra.nts.uci.edu!mrichey From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey) Subject: Re: EARTHFIRST gathering. Rider wanted to share driving. Nntp-Posting-Host: mothra.nts.uci.edu Message-ID: <2A5B819F.24298@noiro.acs.uci.edu> Newsgroups: ca.general Organization: University of California, Irvine Lines: 56 Date: 9 Jul 92 00:00:31 GMT Distribution: ca References: <2A59FCDE.17887@noiro.acs.uci.edu> <1992Jul8.162557.7503@pbhya.PacBell.COM> <1992Jul8.194010.21715@morrow.stanford.edu>