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wjq@uts.amdahl.com (Bill Quigley) writes:

>In article <90318.143939RAYR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> RAYR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
> [ ... ]
> > The Monterey Bay Area Council Executive, a paid employee of the Scouts
> >and number one honcho for the area, was pushing this recruitment program
> >when he made the following statements;
> >
> >    A. While explaining the need for this recruitment program he stated
> >       that this was necessary as "US WHITE FOLK AREN'T HAVING BABIES
> >       LIKE THE MEXICANS".
> >
> >    B. And while qualifying who they were recruiting he stated "WE DON'T
> >       WANT THE BOY RIGHT OFF THE BACK OF THE TRUCK, WE WANT THE MIDDLE
> >       CLASS MEXICAN KIDS"
> >
> > I am just posting this for those people thinking of allowing their
> >children to join the scouts, beware of the leaders motives and please
> >be active with your kids so you can act as a watch dog over these people.
> >
> >NOTE: I have reported this individual to the Western Regional Director and
> >      am now waiting for a response.

>You imply that the racist attitude of one member of the Boy Scouts means that
>the entire organization is racist.  I doubt that this is their official
>position.  While I think that your reporting this person was a good idea,
>telling others to "act as a watch dog over these people" is being pretty
>antagonistic.  Parents should evaluate anyone who will be dealing closely
>with their children, but don't be prejudiced against an entire group because
>of one member.
>-- 
>=======================================================================
>Bill Quigley
>wjq@uts.amdahl.com

>"Whatever doesn't kill me, can only make me stronger."  Lisa Simpson
>=======================================================================

well, having/being from California and involved with scouting most 
of my life i think his apprehension is extremely warranted.  i 
agree the WHOLE organization is by and large not corrupt; however, 
there are many corrupt Boy Scout Officials in the organization who 
use such tactics as illegal accusations, illegal hearings of a 
one-sided nature, threatening of both adults and YOUTH, lying in 
terms of falsification of records and such, and wholesale 
violation of the rules and principles they (BSA) claim to uphold.  
This is probably true in ANY volunteer organization and is 
unfortunate as monies get tighter.  But such actions should NEVER 
be condoned nor allowed.  I am willing to bet absolutley that the 
Western Regional Office does aboslutely nothing. They protect 
their own no matter how bad the person(s) get.  They would sooner 
kick out a questioning volunteer, parent, or scout first.  i know 
this has happened many times across the country.  here alone in 
the Eastern Region they process 100 reviews from similar 
complaints against their own, and EVERY time uphold for the Scout 
Executive or Official, never for the volunteer unless it becomes a 
Nationwide news item.  
the problem occurs because these corrupt people can't find a REAL 
job and more so because PARENTS don't get involved but let their 
kids off at meetings and that's all.  we need more involved 
parents and a concerned public to insure ethics isn't just 
enforced on our elected officials, but equally everywhere.  
Baden-Powell would turn over in his grave if he saw half of what 
these people do and say in the name of scouts.  That is exactly 
what Mrs Lind (William Boyce's daughter) has said, i agree to some 
extent.  it is and has been a good program....as long as WE keep 
involved and see that it stays that way.

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