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On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 02:09:29 GMT, "Phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net>
wrote:

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>"Uncle Samuel" <stars@bars> wrote in message
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>> On Mon, 04 Aug 2003 00:01:19 GMT, "Phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net>
>> wrote:
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>> >"Uncle Samuel" <stars@bars> wrote in message
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>> >> On Sun, 03 Aug 2003 05:04:40 GMT, "Phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net>
>> >> wrote:
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>> >> >"Uncle Samuel" <stars@bars> wrote in message
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>> >> >> On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 19:55:48 GMT, "Phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net>
>> >> >> wrote:
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>> >> >> >"Uncle Samuel" <stars@bars> wrote in message
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>> >> >> >> On Fri, 01 Aug 2003 22:29:10 GMT, "Phxbrd" <phxbrd@earthlink.net>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
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>> >> >> >> >They all suck.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> You suck phuxie, you little tin horn ex-mp POS!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Topic a little close to home?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Not this one, no.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >  How many years have you helped cheat your
>> >> >> >policyholders?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Lol, I did used to sell stereo equipment, but you strike me as more
>of
>> >> >> a Curtis Mathes type...
>> >> >
>> >> >I once had a Heathkit AR-15, the best Dual turntable, and LWE speakers
>> >with
>> >> >negative feedback.  I doubt you even know what I'm talking about.
>> >>
>> >> Heath bars were for solder-heads with too much time on their hands.
>> >
>> >And who fashioned receivers comparable only to MacIntosh - the world
>> >standard.
>>
>> Lol, Mac was best known for their pricey power amps and preamps moron!
>>
>> You want a tuner, Pioneer had some beauts.

I'd toss in Dynaco here as well, but they seemed to have more repairs
- imo.
>>
>> >>
>> >> Dual and Garrard were the best of a losing lot, AR had a better drive
>> >> and less wow and flutter.
>> >
>> >Dual had the only 8 lb platter on the market - and direct drive.
>>
>> They also had a bunch of crappy automatic changers, sheesh, pay
>> attention and take the arm of manually!
>>
>> > I never
>> >heard of your AR.  Korean knockoff?
>>
>> You high?
>>
>> First 3 point suspension system made!
>>
>> And Pioneer made a fine direct drive too.
>
>What does or did AR stand for?  Mebbe I've forgotten.

Acoustic Research.

They had some dandy bookshelf speakers too, if such was your taste.

>>
>> >>
>> >> Klipsch has always been the best overall  loudspeaker.
>> >
>> >You're an idiot,
>>
>> And yer a simian fool.
>>
>> >and everyone with sense know speaker selection is almost
>> >purely a matter of ear and not catalog specs you can't hear.
>>
>> That's a fact!
>>
>> > Tell us what
>> >you know about the superb LWE speakers I mentioned.
>>
>> They were  heavy as sin, and not all that widely available compared to
>> Wharfdale's and some of the other bricks of the day. The internal
>> negative feedback control and room eqs were trick...but...
>
>They were heavy for good reason.  They had one of the heaviest speaker
>magnets available at the time.  I was glad for the weight when I turned 'em
>loose on cathedral pipe organ music - they'da walked off the entertainment
>center otherwise.

No argument there - for pure unleashed bass they fairly fluffed the
shag rugs of the day .

>>
>> I still prefer the Klipsch.
>>
>> >you what the initials stood for.
>>
>> Lew Erath I believe...
>
>I'm impressed.  You know more than you've sounded to date.

I sold mass market goods, not high end rich boy toys. Couldn't afford
'em either :-(

>>
>> > were better than EV-6
>> >speakers you also know nothing about.
>>
>> Electro Voices maybe, those big 15"rs...
>
>My best friend still has his, but I remember them as 18s.  Goddam enclosures
>as big as a Volkswagen.  Mine were 15s but negative feedback made them sound
>like 18s or bigger.  Even my buddy admitted it.  He bought his
>Electro-Voices from the factory in Buchanan, Michigan when they still had a
>lifetime warranty.  He took them back twice before he decided what too much
>volume was all about.  We lived in South Bend and then Kalamazoo, both near
>Buchanan.

My bud used his EVs for PA at his club act with a Hammond organ.

>I'm talking 1969 or so.  You?

A couple years later, early 70's.

>>
>> >>
>> >> I bet you used those crappy Pickering cartridges too! Or maybe it was
>> >> that Shure gobbige.
>> >
>> >Shure, that tracked at a half ounce.
>>
>> And sounded like it too, thin, tinny, poor separation. Stanton was the
>> most balanced performer.
>
>You just stepped in it after a good start.  Separation has nothing to do
>with tracking pressure.  Mebbe you were an apprentice.

It has quite a bit to do with the overall performance (hence
separation numbers) of the cartridge. That's why all the broadcast
boys like Stanton's. Sure you ran a gram to 1.25, but the sound
quality was far improved. A Shure would dance on you if the skating
wasn't spot on and you'd lose portions of the signal. The Pickering's
were tolerable, but Stanton ruled for my span.

It's like guitar strings, heavier is better, that's why SRV's solos
were so punchy, BTO's chords too.


>>
>> > You've never seen or heard of such
>> >quality in your mall discount store....
>>
>> Never worked a mall.
>>
>> And I bet you don't have an original DBX either.
>
>Dunno what are one.

The original mass market noise reduction system that worked (not some
worthless Dolby treble squelch) the DBX 110 was a compression system
that allowed one to make studio quality noise free tapes on reel or
cassette. I believe Tom Scholz worked with them, if memory serves. I
could take even a marginal album and clean it so you'd think it was
shrink wrap new. Pack that on metal at 7 1/2ips on a decent Akai and
you had forever sounds.