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Article #251Re: California's Opportunity to Achieve Improved Flood Control
From: Warren J. Paul
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 05 Feb 1997 00:00
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In <rpenny-ya023580000202971509530001@nntp.ix.netcom.com> rpenny@ix.netcom.com (Richard Penny) writes: > >CALIFORNIA�S OPPORTUNITY TO ACHIEVE IMPROVED FLOOD MANAGEMENT >AND MAJOR ECOSYSTEM RESTORATION > >By Philip B. Williams Ph.D., P.E. > >January 27, 1997 > While there are some good points in this posting, such as pointing out that there was some mis-operation of flood storage, there is also much nonsense. Yes, Folsom stores much water before there can be spills, but that is how a multi-purpose project works. Yes, there will be much damage if a flood is larger than the design flood, but many design floods are at the PMF level. Greater than the Probable Maximum Flood is not a sensible condition. Reoperating multipurpose projects, as suggested, for increased flood control is also nonsense since that would screw up the agricultural water supply that drives California's economy and the potable water supply for many millions of people. What is really needed here is more dedicated flood storage upstream, like Auburn Dam would be. The so called friends of rivers need to recognize that an additional million acre feet of dedicated flood storage each on the San Jaoquin and Sacramento would fix most problems, and would not result in their lamented pristine canyons being flooded except when they would be flooded anyhow. As far as costs go, dams seem expensive because we know what they cost. Schemes such as proposed can be sold as being cheap from a capital cost perspective because their costs are not really known. Such systems also have three to five times the O&M costs of dams. Beware of grand schemes from environmental radicals that read great but subtly misrepresent causes and effects, ignore larege cost factors such as property acquisition (Who pays for decreased property values if you move the levee to behind the house, and don't give us the BS about not building in flood planes, the house is already there and the owner wants compensation), and would require major government controls with loss of freedom, and who hate the obvious solution of creating some flat water behind a dam. Warren J. Paul, P.E. Dam Engineer and Proud of it!
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII X-Google-Thread: 106ed4,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gid106ed4,public X-Google-Thread: 102cad,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gid102cad,public X-Google-Thread: fe1ad,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gidfe1ad,public X-Google-Thread: 10df74,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gid10df74,public X-Google-Thread: 108860,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gid108860,public X-Google-Thread: f84dc,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf84dc,public X-Google-Thread: f9e58,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9e58,public X-Google-Thread: 105030,2373d8dbf9f6fee5 X-Google-Attributes: gid105030,public From: wjpaul@ix.netcom.com(Warren J. Paul ) Subject: Re: California's Opportunity to Achieve Improved Flood Control Date: 1997/02/05 Message-ID: <5db24u$2gp@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com> X-Deja-AN: 214708644 references: <rpenny-ya023580000202971509530001@nntp.ix.netcom.com> organization: Netcom x-netcom-date: Wed Feb 05 4:38:22 PM CST 1997 newsgroups: ca.water,rec.boats.paddle,alt.org.audubon,alt.org.earth-first,alt.org.sierra-club,ca.general,ca.news,ca.environment,sci.geo.hydrology,sci.geo.rivers+lakes,sci.environment,sci.engr.civil