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Re: can.heretic etc.

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From: karl mamer
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 1995 00:00
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rsnelson@portage.net (Bob nelson) writes:
> kamamer@io.org (karl mamer) wrote:
> 
> >Now maybe I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that *anyone* with
> >access to the control news group can issue a newgroup message
> >and name that group anything they want. For example, I can issue
> >a newgroup rec.arts.godlike_beings.karl or alt.godlike_beings.karl.
> >Even though neither group has gone through any kind of voting
> >process the latter, as it falls under the alt group, will likely
> >be picked up by news admins not hell bent on alt.config. The former, 
> >as there was no formal voting process, will likely be picked up by few. 
> >In fact, a rmgroup "suggestion" will likely quickly follow, "suggesting" 
> >to other news admins that rec.arts.godlike_beings.karl should be removed.
> 
> Uh...Karl...Karl...yo Karl...the can.* hierarcy is non conforming to
> the process of the "Big 7/8". The process for can.* newsgroup
> creation is shown in can.config. under Dawn Whitesides FAQ.
> It's pretty convoluted and vague, and in any event doesn't acurately
> reflect what the true state of affairs is. Unfortunately Dawn doesn't
> want to be involved in 'net politics.

Yes I know, I've read the can.config faq. Vague? What parts? I
found nothing vague. I list the alt.* example above because
as Chris notes, sysadmins view can.config like alt.config.
My rec.* example is not meant to show that the can.* is run like
sci/soc/talk/comp/misc/rec. It is meant to contrast the
relatively open alt.* group and the relatively closed 7 sisters.
But even in heirarchies where there's a formal voting process
anyone is free to try and send out a newgroup message to
create any group they like. It will be ignored by most
sysadmins. If you have a problem with that, start your
own usenet.

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From: kamamer@io.org (karl mamer)
Subject: Re: can.heretic etc.
Date: 1995/11/30
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