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Re: Canadian LOON dismisses report criticizing mission in Afghanistan

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From: Arved Sandstrom
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 23:01
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"Mountain Goat" <rmgoatNO@SPAMshaw.ca> wrote in message 
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> On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 13:32:58 GMT, Carter <per.ardua@adastra> wrote:
>
>>Mountain Goat wrote:
>>> On Mon, 03 Jul 2006 00:45:22 GMT, John Fleming <nospam@sprynet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>> As will blowing up bridges, bombing airfields and mining harbours.
>>>> Anything to disrupt the supply chain and limit the enemy's 
>>>> effectiveness
>>>> in the theatre of operations.
>>>
>>> But not something that affects a grunt one on one with an enemy, the
>>> only outcome you want is him dead and you not. This is all automatic
>>> reaction if your training is good. Stopping to think gets you dead.
>>
>>That might have been true in the days of Attila the Hun.  Today
>>it comes under the heading of urban legend.  In modern warfare
>>not thinking is what gets you dead.
>>
>>Carter
>
> Nope, when the guy in the wrong suit pops up from behind that wall
> with an AK-47, you and your C-7 act on automatic or you are dead. That
> has not changed in Infantry combat.
>
> Thinking ahead about your line of advance, where is there cover & that
> kind of thing is different, but that has always been true as well.

It's not intrinsically different. The ability to rapidly and accurately 
assess terrain and dispose one's forces based on both that and probable 
enemy locations and strength is not different than reacting in a very short 
timeframe to someone popping up from behind a wall. Whether it's an 
individual grunt, or a platoon, or a regiment, or an army, every unit is 
trying to get inside the opponent's decision loop - it's just that for the 
grunt the characteristic scales are seconds and metres, for a regiment they 
are minutes and kilometres, and for an army they are hours/days and dozens 
or hundreds of kilometres.

AHS 
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