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Article #27852Re: We are stuck in Afghanistan
From: Noble
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:39
Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2006 01:39
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Brian Daily wrote: > On 3 Jul 2006 10:44:03 -0700, "Leftists = traitors" <rander3127@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >Brian Daily wrote: > >> MPs have finally spotted that Tony Blair's other great foreign policy adventure > >> is proving no less disastrous than Iraq. > >> Brian Whitaker > >> > >> http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/brian_whitaker/2006/07/stuck_in_afghanistan.html > >> > >> British troops are facing "very difficult objectives" in Afghanistan, the former > >> Conservative party leader William Hague said yesterday. > >> > >> "They have to win the hearts and minds of the local population while at the same > >> time removing their main source of income ... Unless it can be shown to the > >> people in Afghanistan that there's an alternative future to growing opium and > >> being with the Taliban ... we are not going to succeed." > > > >So what? It's great real-world training for troops. Much better than > >war games. > > The innocent Afghani people who are dying disagree. > But you are correct that is one of the primary reasons Canada is there. As I mentioned earlier, this would have to be the most bizarre and immoral of Canada's deployments. Worse than Somalia. > We can > kill Afghanis for decades and they will never be able to get even. Don't be so sure. During the first Anglo-Afghan war that ended in 1842, the Pashtuns (the true/ main Afghan ethnic group) defeated and wiped out at least 16 thousand of British force compelled to retreat from Kabul. They also repulsed and shredded the "avenging" army the British Empire sent (one may still observe numerous British graves in that region...especially at the Khyber). Britain's disastrous defeat during the first Anglo-Afghan war (apart from bleeding the English in terms of lives and money) essentially wiped out the myth of British invincibility. The event gave certain "ideas" to observers in India....particularly notable being the "Indian Mutiny" of 1857, a rebellion that claimed hundreds (if not thousands) of British lives, and irrevocably eclipsed the prestige and aura of Britain's empire. The indomitable Pashtu warrior-poets of Afghanistan were something of an inspiration to liberation movements of the colonial subject races of the British empire. Even the Scots and Irish (with their centuries of suffering and oppression) were inspired. A little over a century later, the Soviet Union decayed even worse after its defeat to Afghanistan. Unfortunately, Canada, like the U.S., seems to be treading the path of the old USSR. > The perfect country for Canada to lay waste to. Or perhaps the perfect country to lay waste to Canada, as had been done to the Soviet Union.
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