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Article #27863Re: Canadian LOON dismisses report criticizing mission in Afghanistan
From: Dave Smith
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:41
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 21:41
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Arved Sandstrom wrote: > I wasn't following the thread precisely, and some key posts appear to show > up only quoted in others, but I gather at some point an observation was made > about wounding versus killing, on the battlefield. > > I had a (friendly) argument with a buddy about this - he was absolutely > convinced that weapons systems that have a high rate of wounding were/are > purpose-built to be that way. My position is that this is almost never the > case, not in the sense he meant. > > On the face of it, one can indeed argue that many weapons systems are > designed to wound rather than kill, or at least have mostly wounded as a > percentage of casualties. But this argument invokes a rather common logical > fallacy, that if X happens, then it must have been intended to happen. Many weapons systems are designed to wound rather than kill. First of all, you have to break down the weapons systems types into categories. Some weapons systems are anti personal while others are anti aircraft, anti armour. Munitions can come in anti personnel, anti armour, high explosive, white phosphorous, penetrating, bunker busting etc. Some have been adapted for several functions. The Daisy Cutter, for instances, was designed to be dropped into jungles or forests and blast down trees to make an instant landing zone. The same ordinance has been used as an anti personnel weapon. Rifles,handguns, submachine guns and light, medium machine-guns use smaller calibre and full metal jackets. If they wanted them to kill they would use dum dum bullets or expanding bullets similar to hunting cartridges. Anti personnel artillery munitions are designed to break about and blast an area with fragments. The smaller the pieces, the more fragments there will be and the greater the chance of striking an enemy soldier, but less likely to be a lethal wound. >
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