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Article #41718Re: Canadian ISP Makes Really Bad Decision
From: Brent P
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 03:57
Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 03:57
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In article <acghr1$n7g$3@dns3.cae.ca>, Richard wrote: >> preventing other customers from using it. But at gigs per hour ratings, >> it means the usage has grown beyond the home level at really should be >> moved to something more appropiate. > I'm with you until the last sentence, while commercial servers on a > residential line should be a no-no, if I can find non-commercial things to > tie up my bandwidth to the tune of a hundred gigs per month, there's no > reason why I shouldn't. It has little to do with wether it's commerical or non-commerical. It's about the amount of bandwidth being used. If a neigbor started running a free porn site or something sucking all the bandwidth out of the cable modem system in the area I would expect that he get booted off. I should have crawling speeds so he can set up a high bandwidth server? And even in the case of DSL, upstream of you there is still going to be a point where bandwidth is being shared. A huge bandwidth need should be moved to something better suited for it than slowing down the neighbors. I know your arguement is that new equipment be added to support said usage. But, if there are not enough low-bandwidth users to subsidize the high-bandwidth users something is going to have to be done. If efforts to attract more casual users fail, the only option is to take step to discourage high amounts of bandwidth consumption to achieve a proper balance or raise prices for everyone. Raising prices for everyone will further discourage the causual users from signing up. What option is left? To limit bandwidth consumption or charge the high-bandwidth users more. > After all the service was originally marketed as > unlimited; hiking up monthly costs _and_ imposing d/l quotas in the same > month is just bad business ethics. They left a loophole, people abused it, now they closed it with a slamming door and big assed padlock. I would just never think of running something that needed that much bandwidth on a home service. Thats how the no servers of anykind policies on the DSL and cable modem services in chicago came to be I suppose. Be nice to be able to run a small server that would run at trickle and not be noticed by anyone by usage alone without the fear of being booted if caught.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f504b,d359f6b8aa7ca78b X-Google-Attributes: gidf504b,public X-Google-Thread: fc3d0,d359f6b8aa7ca78b X-Google-Attributes: gidfc3d0,public X-Google-Thread: 114af9,d359f6b8aa7ca78b X-Google-Attributes: gid114af9,public X-Google-Thread: 10e835,d359f6b8aa7ca78b X-Google-Attributes: gid10e835,public X-Google-Thread: f7b9c,d359f6b8aa7ca78b X-Google-Attributes: gidf7b9c,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-05-23 20:57:55 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn1feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.204!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!rwcrnsc53.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: can.general,mtl.general,ont.general,ns.general,chi.general From: tetraethyllead@yahoo.com (Brent P) Subject: Re: Canadian ISP Makes Really Bad Decision References: <76f9684ac55413942690f206280a8b1b@anonymous.poster> <ac3iss$mi5ci$1@ID-97594.news.dfncis.de> <NSxG8.11113$Hf4.1279556@news20.bellglobal.com> <9HyG8.52347$L76.65088@rwcrnsc53> <aceh1k$a3f$1@dns3.cae.ca> <eeAG8.79638$Po6.132365@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net> <acghr1$n7g$3@dns3.cae.ca> Organization: A World Full of Junk Reply-To: tetraethyllead@yahoo.com User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.1 (Unix) Lines: 43 Message-ID: <7TiH8.67783$L76.105112@rwcrnsc53> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.248.230.221 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc53 1022212675 12.248.230.221 (Fri, 24 May 2002 03:57:55 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 03:57:55 GMT Date: Fri, 24 May 2002 03:57:55 GMT