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Re: Canadian ISP Makes Really Bad Decision

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From: Joe Baptista
Date: Tue, 21 May 2002 18:47
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Calvin Ostrum wrote:

> You admit they should be able to raise the price to cover
> these costs, it seems.  But then you insist that they must
> raise the price for everyone, including those who are *not*
> imposing very large costs on them.

Thats the way a network works.  Bandwidth is shared.  And the fact that your
evolutionary demands on the internet are minimal does not imply that everyone
else should be limited to your restricted bandwidth usage.

I find people who don't use bandwidth are missing the point in the internet
revolution.  It's all about bandwidth.  and meeting the demands of bandwidth.
the sharing of resources and ideas is fueled by bandwidth.

unfortunately dsl/telco/cableco providers are too busy marketing each other at
our expense while they could be doing more to serve bandwidth needs.  and some
of these ideas are old hat.  many of the dsl/telco/cableco providers already
have shared network points where they transfer traffic between networks - i.e.
cogeco  - shaw - sympatico.

and bandwidth is not that expensive.  these days it's going cheep what with all
the bankruptcies.

i think the problem with the telcos/cablecos is that they were expecting
generous profit margins from the dsl/cable explosion.  but the reality is most
of the telcos/cablecos investment in infrastrcuture has not paid off.  and now
they are looking to catch up.

so in the long term it's going to cost you more.  people who use bandwidth know
better and are willing to pay for access.  unfortunately sympatico is too
expensive.  this opens the market to competition.  eventually other providers
will undercut sympatico for true high speed junkies.  sympatico will loose
revenue and be left with the grannie walkers (i.e. those who use little
internet bandwidth) who are now being charged more.

the exact same senario happened in nyc.  lots of competition these days in the
dsl/cable landscape - only problem is because of such bad wiring - it' is after
all nyc - installation can take weeks.

regards
joe

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