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In aus.general bikini_spider@tranquil.hegemony.ca wrote:
: In can.general maddison@my-deja.com wrote:

:> See my web site for refutations of  the more usual forgeries and
:> misrepresentations.

: Mr. Maddison, I've briefly read both sides of this debate, 


What makes you think there is a "debate"? If someone says that "the earth
is flat" and someone else presents a factual statement that it is not,
does that mean that the initial proposition is in question and is
something worthy of debate? I think not. Most hate sites carry these
compilations of alleged quotes from various Jewish books and it usually
turns out that they are either forgeries, way out of context, or based on
mistranslations. I (and volunteers) have done nothing more to present a
factual basis for what is being claimed.


: enough to know
: that I'd like some independant verification.    Where can an average,
: non-hebrew speaking fellow find a faithful copy of the talmud in english?


Its not in Hebrew, its in Aramaic. Do you read that? Else, you could try
large scholarly libraries or buy a copy (with English) of your own (about
US$700 - US$3000). It is also online but only in Aramaic.


: Are there any particular revisions I can ask for?  Are there any particular
: revisions I should shy away from?


You obviously don't know the nature of the text if you think you can just
pick up a copy and understand what is being said. First of all, there is
over 5000 densely typed pages, and secondly it assumes a huge amount of
prerequisite knowledge. It is also not like a conventional book, is
loosely structured and comprises of transcripts of debates and discussions
of theoretical issues. Its manner is sharp and abrupt (since it has a
presumption of a large amount of prior knowledge) and not everything
written in it is accepted (since it contains records of both sides of a
given debate). In some ways, it is a bit like a huge Usenet debate (but a
lot more polite and without the lies).

Nevertheless if you want to look at it feel free to do so. Then you can
compare what is said and the refutation of what the hate sites claim, on
my web site. Please let me know if there is anything you disagree with.

David Maddison