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Article #2261Re: Borrowed records from Revenue Canada
From: Chris Lewis
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1986 19:39
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1986 19:39
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In article <623@water.UUCP> jmlang@water.UUCP writes:
>In a way, it is a bit reassuring that the
>records were on micro-fiches, there is quite a lot more
>damage that could be done with the same records in electronic
>format.
Actually, it is difficult to see what difference it would make.
As it stands (from what I've heard on the radio), these are the
possible exposures that the newspapers have thought of:
1) mailing lists - *BIG* ones. A nuisance certainly, but not
a big deal.
2) Improper acquisition of passports - well, you're still
supposed to have "professional" references, so it shouldn't
be too bad. Actually, the main thing you *have* to
have is a birth certificate. A SIN without birth certificate
won't get you anywhere.
3) Credit checks - theoretically, the credit agencies are
only supposed to divulge this information when the request
is accompanied by the signature of the person being checked.
Eg: you sign a form while getting a mortgage to allow the
bank to look at your credit rating. Therefore, I believe
that a credit agency releasing information on the basis
of a phone call regardless of whether the caller had SIN
is improper anyways. Besides, most credit records wouldn't
have SIN (though they will if it is in their sources).
4) Various futzing around with banks (eg: creating accounts).
This is possible regardless of whether you have a SIN or not.
You don't need a SIN to open an account! Banks go by signatures,
names and bank account numbers primarily. SINs are there for issuing
T5's (I think that you don't have to supply a SIN for this purpose -
you can get the filled out form from the bank and send it yourself),
RRSP, CSBs etc - and half the time the accounts are not tied
together anyways (RRSP still hasn't noticed we've moved, but the
mortgage sure and hell has). Any bank that allows somebody to
withdraw money from an account purely because of having a name
and SIN number is in big trouble.
5) Computer matching: first of all you have to break into a
computer that has SINs. That ain't all that easy. But still,
what is there? Well:
a) banks
b) Stats Can (for tracking individual progress,
but only for long form, and probably divested
of all other ID stuff anyways. Stats Can is
not a very worth-while thing to break into)
c) employers.
d) Credit agencies (sometimes)
From (a), (b) and (d) all you can find out of any particular
interest is how much you make - sort of like being in the
Civil Service. (c) isn't likely to be particularly
interesting. Most companies don't have their employee
data computerized anyways.
[This may be an incomplete list - anybody have other examples
of big databases with SINs in them?]
6) There are very few things that you *have* to supply a SIN number
for. Almost entirely Taxation stuff. If you want to protect
yourself - simply don't give it out except where required by law.
Most companies won't insist on it. Unfortunately, though, we
don't have the protection that the Americans have - US law
states that no person can be denied a service (at least government -
eg: welfare etc) for refusing to divulge a SSN. And, in fact,
most of the big databases in the US key on names and addresses
and other "non-unique identifiers" because they cannot (by law)
rely on everybody giving them the SSN.
From the point of view of computer matching, the SIN number is nice to have,
but hardly necessary. A person's name and address is the only matching
data that most organizations have in common with any other organization.
For example, the Ontario Cancer Treatment and Research Foundation doesn't
bother with SINs or OHIP numbers - they match on age, name and address.
OHIP keys on OHIP #, last name and initials and sometimes age. Until
I moved out, we couldn't distinguish between OHIP stuff addressed to me
or my father... OHIP numbers are REALLY crummy IDs. (The funniest thing
I ever saw was a retail store taking OHIP numbers as ID for taking a cheque.
Fat lot of good it would do them if it bounced)
I used to work in the Krever Commission (Royal Commission of Enquiry into
the Confidentiality of Health Records) as a computer consultant. One of the
things that seemed pretty obvious from a review of literature and the
investigation of various health databases (eg: OHIP, WCB, Corrections, VD
registry and a few non-health ones for comparison purposes) is that,
frankly, a single indentifier wouldn't make all that much difference.
Because you don't need anything more than a name and address to do a
match. And, names and addresses are a hell of a lot easier to
get than your SIN. Heck, just simply knowing *who* to target for a match
gives you enough to do the match. Think about it - how many of your friends,
associates, people you do business with have your SIN number? Probably
pretty darn few (except of course, for bank employees etc). But all of
them know your name, and most of them your address - if not, chances are that
it can be pulled out of the phone book anyhow. And, there's a Real-Estate
book that contains just as much about you (sorted by street address) as
the Revenue Canada data does - including unlisted phone numbers! And you
can buy one (actually, rent, but who cares) for about $200. That, frankly,
is a far worse exposure than the Revenue Canada one. And, nobody's noticed
it! (I just wonder where the hell they get all the data from...)
The really sensitive databases (eg: OHIP, VD registry etc.) don't have
SIN numbers in them. In fact, when we were investigating improper access
to OHIP data, the vast majority of the probes didn't even have OHIP numbers!
It was quite simple - several members of the Subrogation Dept. thought that
it was their duty to provide some data to insurance investigators which
didn't have the OHIP numbers of their "targets" - so the OHIP staff simply
looked it up in the OHIP fiche sets that were keyed by name. In spite of
the fact that the OHIP "enabling" legislation strictly forbids ANYONE from
looking at OHIP data (other than the MRC).
Actually, (as awful as it is to say for a computer scientist) the main
defence we have against large-scale matching is that the raw databases
in these systems are such a awful kludged up mess and are so big that
it simply ain't worth the trouble in most cases. It's taken OCTRF years
to be able to do the limited matching they do. The most damaging and
likely problems are almost always due to disgruntled employees of some
of these organizations (and have I got a lot of horror stories about
that) divulging info. All the computer security in the world doesn't
make that big a difference here. Nor does restricting use of unique IDs.
Physical security, bonding and employee background investigations (more
privacy invasion if you prefer) does make a difference.
If people are sufficiently interested in following this stuff much further,
I could give a "pocket" summary of what we found. You'd be surprised.
Chances are almost 100 percent that this is simply another disgruntled
employee trying to embarass his employer, and in actuality isn't all
that particularly dangerous. On the other hand, "live" VD registry data,
or in some cases OHIP *IS* dangerous. People die (and I'm not speaking
figuratively!) when mistakes are made in releasing "just" OHIP data.
Revenue Canada data is merely a nuisance.
--
Chris Lewis
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