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From: "Boris" <boris@movil.com> Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish References: <199910230159.DAA17342@sol2.tvd.be> Subject: Re: ZYDS=KIDDIE PORN - Now Same Law for Whites? Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 20:44:24 -0700 nobody@club.worldonline.be> wrote in message news:199910230159.DAA17342@sol2.tvd.be... > The Edmonton Sun newspaper today reports on > another charge of KIDDIE PORN. > A Lawrence Mark Edelstein has been charged with > possession of child pornagraphy. Sentence on > conviction carries a penalty of up to 5 years' prison. > Perhaps his defence will include the news items below? > Date: Sat, 3 Jul 1999 05:47:17 -0700 (PDT) > From: Mixmaster <mixmaster@remail.obscura.com> > Subject: JEWS=KIDDIE PORN, Now same Law for Others? > All across Canada, lawyers and their clients can now > use the case of the JEW SYNAGOGUE CANTOR > CONVICTED OF DISTRIBUTING KIDDIE PORN from > his synagogue, as a legal precedent. > For example, there is the Vancouver case of Robin Sharpe, > who won his appeal for possession of kiddie porn this week. > It seems the precedent of the JEW CANTOR, who got off > when convicted of DISTRIBUTING KIDDIE PORN, will be > a precedent for others now?? > Then there is the case of the ex-Edmonton cop, Dale Weir, > also being appealed. > The 2 above are charged or/and convicted of > POSSESSION of kiddie porn. > Then there was the other case of the DND scientist > Blair Evans, in Ottawa,who got 8 months in prison!!! > All these cases, and others can ask in their appeals: > IF A JEW IS CONVICTED OF DISTRIBUTING KIDDIE PORN, > BUT DOES NO TIME IN PRISON, SURELY NON-JEWS > SHOULD GET SIMILAR TREATMENT ??? > On Mon, 08 Feb 1999 14:56:33 GMT, kengaygoy@scheisse.zhids.org wrote: > >On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 16:11:27 GMT, scheisslauri@pamyat.nozhid.org > >wrote: > >>On Sat, 06 Feb 1999 10:20:59 -0500, Al Marchant > >><dreamingdog@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >>>Oh that's a very simple question to answer. > >>>It's because they are better than you dummy. > >>In other words, you agree that the JEW KIDDIE PORN people > >>get preferential treatment from the crooked Courts in Canada?? > >>Why should the Christkillers be treated differently than white men?? > >>>scheisslauri@pamyat.nozhid.org wrote: > >>>> It seems that if you are a JEW distributing KIDDIE PORN in > >>>> Canada, you do not have to go to jail!!! > >>>> In fact, you are allowed to leave Canada, even though normal > >>>> people in Canada have to go to jail, as they should. > >>>> Why should JEWS not have to go to jail for distributing KIDDIE > >>>> PORN?? > >>>> On Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:05:26 GMT, scheisslauri@pamyat.nozhid,org > >>>> wrote: > >>>> >On Thu, 25 Sep 1997 01:55:53 -0500, jacob bekker > <jbekker@flash.net> > >>>> >wrote: > >>>> >If that was "A Polish school teacher at a Halifax church..." > >>>> >than it was O.K. > >>>> >J.B. > >>>> >>No, it would not be OK, no matter who is the pervert. > >>>> >>What is of concern, is whether the 3 NON-JEWS presently charged > >>>> >>with similar crimes, will now also be allowed to leave Canada, > >>>> >>without having to spend the normal 5 years in prison? > >>>> >>Or, is this generosity only available to damn JEW KIDDIE PORN > >>>> >>DISTRIBUTORS, especially if they are connected to a synagogue?? > >>>> >> ><odessa88@direct.ca> wrote: > >>>> >>> ARREST SHOCKS SYNAGOGUE; TEACHER FLIES BACK TO U.S. > >>>> >>> By EVA HOARE and AMY PUGSLEY FRASER Staff Reporters > >>>> >>> A Hebrew school teacher and cantor at a Halifax synagogue, > >>>> >>> who downloaded hundreds of pornographic photographs of > >>>> >>> children from the Internet, was fined $2,200 in court > Tuesday. > >>>> >>> The fine was paid and Stuart David Friedman, a > >>>> >>> well-liked and respected member of the Beth Israel > Synagogue, > >>>> >>> promptly left the country for his native United States. > >>>> >>> It's the first charge of its kind in Nova Scotia and > justice officials > >>>> >>> hinted that Mr. Friedman's activities - downloading a > personal > >>>> >>> fantasy collection of boys performing sexual and > >>>> >>> sadomasochistic acts - could be > >>>> >>> connected to an international child pornography ring. > >>>> >>> Mr. Friedman, 42, of South Park Street, Halifax, pleaded > >>>> >>> guilty to possessing child pornography from the Internet. > >>>> >>> When Canada Customs and police officers arrested him > >>>> >>> during a raid on his apartment Monday, the cantor was > >>>> >>> surfing the Net. Although his private cache contained > >>>> >>> photographs and videos - as well as gay and bondage > >>>> >>> magazines - the bulk of his collection was 223 > >>>> >>> computer-generated photos of child pornography stored on > >>>> >>> diskettes, on two computer hard drives, and on computer > printouts. > > >>>> >>> ``It's extremely disgusting,'' said Const. Gary Martin of > >>>> >>> the HalifaxRegional Police Service, whose officers also > >>>> >>> conducted a search of Chebucto Freenet offices, > >>>> >>> Mr. Friedman's Internet provider. ``Ninety per cent of this > >>>> >>> material was obtained either directly or indirectly through > >>>> >>> the Internet. > >>>> >>> Some ... was directly downloaded from the Internet and > >>>> >>> some was obtained from different groups that are within > >>>> >>> the Internet,'' Const. Martin said. > >>>> >>> ``The pictures are very explicit. It covers just about > every > >>>> >>> avenue of pornography that's out there.'' > > >>>> >>> Canada Customs' intelligence division started working > >>>> >>> the case last September and then brought in regional > >>>> >>> police, said Ed Osborne, customs' > >>>> >>> regional intelligence officer. > > >>>> >>> Now officers - who'll spend hundreds of hours poring > >>>> >>> over the materials - want to know if any Nova Scotian > >>>> >>> children were depicted in the ``gruesome'' > >>>> >>> photos and material seized. But they do not expect > >>>> >>> that will be the case. > > >>>> >>> Parents of children who attended the Hebrew school, > >>>> >>> shocked by the arrest, planned to meet Tuesday night. > >>>> >>> ``As aware as people are that these things > >>>> >>> can and do happen, it's still a shock,'' said Cathy Fox, > >>>> >>> president of the Beth Israel Synagogue. Her three children - > >>>> >>> two sons and a daughter - were taught by Mr. Friedman > >>>> >>> at the synagogue's Hebrew school. ``It's a very > >>>> >>> difficult time.'' > > >>>> >>> The cantor - who leads the congregation in song - > >>>> >>> taught her 13- year-old son songs and chants > >>>> >>> that were part of his bar mitzvah ceremony last > >>>> >>> October, Mrs. Fox said. > > >>>> >>> Some members will feel betrayed as a result of > >>>> >>> the charges. ``I think the elderly members of our > >>>> >>> congregation will be very hurt by this.'' Some are > >>>> >>> appalled while others expressed sympathy. > >>>> >>> ``I'm very saddened,'' said Robert Wolman, > >>>> >>> president of the synagogue's board of governors. > > >>>> >>> Mr. Wolman said he and other board members > >>>> >>> heard about the case Monday night and > >>>> >>> Mr. Friedman was immediately dismissed. > > >>>> >>> Wearing an olive-colored trenchcoat and a black > >>>> >>> yarmulke (skull cap) over his greying hair, > >>>> >>> a pale and visibly nervous Mr. Friedman was > >>>> >>> ushered into provincial court by two sheriff's deputies. > >>>> >>> Refusing even to look up at the judge, he stared > >>>> >>> resolutely at the floor while wringing his hands. > > >>>> >>> ``This is the first (such) charge through our office,'' > >>>> >>> Crown attorney Frank Hoskins told Judge Hughes Randall. > >>>> >>> ``But it sends a message out to the public that if you're > in > >>>> >>> possession of these images from your Internet and > >>>> >>> they're child pornography, you can be charged with > >>>> >>> a criminal offence and get a criminal record > >>>> >>> and a substantial fine,'' Mr. Hoskins said later. > > >>>> >>> Article Segment 2 of 2 > >>>> >>> <A > HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA0852 > 2@mailmasher.com%3e%231/2&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&h > itnum=192">(Ge > >>>> >>>>> <A > HREF="http://xp5.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?recnum=%3c199701162146.NAA0852 > 2@mailmasher.com%3e&server=db96q5&CONTEXT=874940586.1932133778&hitnum= > 192">(Get All > > >>>> >>> Canada Customs received information about a > >>>> >>> child pornography ring in Canada and the > >>>> >>> United States operating via the Internet, surface > >>>> >>> mail and electronic (e-mail), the Crown attorney said. > > >>>> >>> Officers said Mr. Friedman's apartment was > >>>> >>> ``ill-kept and unclean,'' and that they also found letters > >>>> >>> with explicit sexual content. A second search > >>>> >>> conducted at Chebucto Freenet yielded his e-mail records. > > >>>> >>> Mr. Hoskins and defence lawyer Joel Pink said > >>>> >>> Mr. Friedman, who co-operated with police, > >>>> >>> was only using the material for his own > >>>> >>> sexual fantasies. ``His intent was possession, > >>>> >>> not distribution or selling,'' said the Crown. > > >>>> >>> The former cantor - who is not married - has > >>>> >>> provided information that will help police bring > >>>> >>> more ``like-minded individuals'' to justice, > >>>> >>> Mr. Hoskins said. > > >>>> >>> Outside court, police Sgt. Bill Cowper, the > >>>> >>> department's Internet specialist, said this > >>>> >>> is just the beginning. ``We're pursuing every > >>>> >>> angle at this time. He's not the only person. ... > >>>> >>> The investigation does involve law enforcement > >>>> >>> officials in Canada and in the United States.'' > > >>>> >>> Police said Mr. Friedman is being investigated > >>>> >>> over the alleged distribution of photos to other > >>>> >>> Internet users. Police won't say which American > >>>> >>> agencies are involved and the U.S. Customs > >>>> >>> Service, reached late Tuesday, declined comment. > > >>>> >>> Mr. Hoskins asked that Mr. Friedman surrender > >>>> >>> his computers, valued at $1,200 and $1,500 apiece, > >>>> >>> to the court in addition to the $2,200 fine > >>>> >>> ($2,000 plus a $200 victim surcharge). > >>>> >>> Two sets of handcuffs were also confiscated. > > >>>> >>> After the court appearance, Mr. Friedman took > >>>> >>> the 4:45 p.m. flight to Boston to be with his family. > > >>>> >>> Officials won't comment on the amount of the fine - > >>>> >>> the offence carries a maximum of five years in > >>>> >>> prison - saying that's up to the judge. But they > >>>> >>> did say there was a plea bargain. > > >>>> In other words, one law for normal people caught under > >>>> this crime, and if you are a JEW, you get off?? > > >>>> >>> Mr. Friedman, holder of a music degree from an > >>>> >>> American university, arrived in Halifax in August 1994 > >>>> >>> and has worked at Beth Israel ever since. His last > >>>> >>> posting as a cantor was in the Detroit area. > >>>> >>> The man, whose job was to lead prayers, > >>>> >>> teach Hebrew school and help prepare boys for > >>>> >>> bar mitzvah, has no prior criminal record, Mr. Pink said. > > >>>> >>> ``My eldest son has a great deal of respect for the > >>>> >>> cantor,'' said Mrs. Fox, who wanted to break the > >>>> >>> news to her children before they heard it through > >>>> >>> the media. > > >>>> >>> ``We have to do this in a very nonalarmist fashion ... > >>>> >>> I'm still thinking about how we will handle this.'' > > >>>> >>> Mr. Wolman said the board of governors would > >>>> >>> review of the matter as soon as possible and > >>>> >>> plans to tighten the screening process for > >>>> >>> future cantors. > > >>>> >>> Police also said they found a stash of adult > >>>> >>> pornography - 31 nude orpartially-nude self-portraits - > >>>> >>> but the charges stem from the child-related > >>>> >>> material. > > >>>> >>> With staff reporters Bruce Erskine and Barry Dorey > >>>> >>> The Halifax Herald Limited, 1997. > > >>>> >>>>> Join NSWPP mailing-list, go to: > >>>> >>>>> http://www.nswpp.org/">http://www.nswpp.org > > > > >>>On 1 Jul 1998 18:48:11 GMT, billy_bob@throckmorton.com (Billy Bob > >>>Throckmorton) wrote: > >>>>In article <jeff_brown-0107980822210001@38.27.217.200>, > >>>>jeff_brown@bigfoot.com says... > > >>>>>In article <6nbkoj$60u@sjx-ixn6.ix.netcom.com>, Scott "beat you > to a > >>>>>bloody pulp" Bradbury, hiding behind his "Billy Bob Throckmorton" > sock > >>>>>puppet, wrote: > > >>>>>>Gort McFee commented: > >>>>>>>>>Gee, I don't see Ken defending homosexuality there, > >>>>>>>>>Doc-Scott. He seems to be defending tolerance. > >>>>>>>>>Is that what has your knickers in a knot? > > >>>>>>What does the word "homophobe" make reference to then? > > >>>>>It makes reference to a person who fears homosexuals -- you, for > instance. > > >>>>>Where in the passage cited, O Gutless One, does Ken McVay > >>>>>make any reference to homosexual sex? And if he doesn't refer > >>>>>to it, how, exactly,can he be defending it? > >>>>>We're _still_ waiting for the answers to those questions... > > >>>>He does not have to mention homosexual sex in order to > >>>>defend it. I never said that he mentioned homosexual sex. > >>>>This is your ruse to divert attention that Gay McVay > >>>>urges tolerance toward a "community" that engages > >>>>in such practices. If you want tolerance for a group > >>>>of people that practice such then you would also > >>>> tolerate their acts would you not? If it weren't for > >>>>their practices then the subject of tolerance wouldn't > >>>>be an issue would it? > >>>>What is so hard about this concept? > > >>>>It is about the same as people that say they are pro-choice; > >>>>they avoid saying they are pro-abortion but they approve > >>>>of the practice. You liberals are the ones that like to play > >>>>tricks with meanings of words. I have no doubt in my > >>>> mind that you, McVay and the rest of your ilk approve of the > >>>>homosexual community and their activity! Care to deny this now? > > >>>>>> [...deletia...] > > >>>>Quit deleting the original text if you wish to make argument. > >>>>Here is McVay unedited: > >>>>http://x12.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365864512 > >>>>Subject: Dear Nizkor.... > >>>>From: kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC) > >>>>Date: 1998/06/25 > > >>>>[Notice that the Nizkooks in their apologia for homosexual > >>>>acts seek to make homos into heroes! Notice also they > >>>>totally deleted Goldberg's original questions as well. > >>>>Here is the link to Goldberg's post that all these > >>>>homo-aphologist seek to avoid: > >>>>http://x9.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=365721680 > >>>>7/1/98 Tavish] > > >>>>In article <3593c583.138589250@news.abccom.bc.ca>, > >>>>Electric Zen <electriczen@nospam.bigfoot.com> wrote: > > >>>>[deranged bonehead displays homophobia, Ken Lewis responds] > > >>>>Notice how another 'revisionist', unable to support his > >>>>arguments with facts, resorts to teenaged sexual comments. > >>>> Were all of you maroons > >>>>cloned from the same defective brain cell? > > >>>>That would certainly explain why they don't have more > >>>>than a single functioning neuron between them, would it not? > > >>>>This discussion reminds me - Saturday, June 28, is Pride Day. > >>>>There will be a massive parade in Toronto and other cities. > >>>>Folks who would like to stand up and be counted for > >>>>tolerance should attend. Last year, > >>>>about a million spectators lined the Toronto route. > > >>>>(The Phelps Clan should probably stay home - they > >>>>don't know the meaning of tolerance.) > > >>>>A sobering reminder: During the past ten years, one > >>>>half of Canada's arts community has died of AIDS. > >>>> Half - Dancers, actors, artists of all sorts. > >>>>Such a loss cannot help but have a devastating > >>>>impact upon our cultural life, and homophobic > >>>>cheap shots don't remove this very sad reality. > > >>>>"Revisionist" my Aunt Tildy. These twits wouldn't know > >>>>a revisionist if he bit them in their nether regions. > > >>>>The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org > >>>>Ken McVay, Director. http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay > >>>> ----------END---------- > > > >>>>I answered the stupid questions above the requoting of > >>>>Ken McVay's obvious apologia for homosexuals and the > >>>>acts that get them termed as homosexuals. > > >>>>>>How is AIDS spread and why did McVay use the word "homophobe?" > > >>>>It has been explained repeatedly and the lurkers have > >>>>gotten the point. It is you that seeks to do damage > >>>>control and diversion. Won't work! > > >>>>>> [...deletia...] > > > >>>>Where was it ever claimed that Ken McVay mentioned > >>>>homosexual sex? I made no such claim. It is you making > >>>>the claim that I made the claim! > >>>>I have maintained that he makes apologia for a "community" > >>>>that obviously engages in such acts. They aren't called > >>>>homosexuals for any other reason Georg and you > >>>> look extremely agenda concious and stupid to keep up > >>>>this current ruse! > > >>>>>> [...deletia...] > > >>>>>>>>If Gay McVay > >>>>>>>>believes so much in tolerance then why doesn't he > >>>>>>>>appreciate the right to free speech and stop showing > >>>>>>>>intolerance toward others. > >>>>>>>>Ernst Zundel for instance. > > >>>>>>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated > >>>>>>>that Ernst Zundel should > >>>>>>>not have the right of free speech? > > >>>>>>His group snipes at Zundel and others like him all the time. > > >>>>>When and where, exactly, has Ken McVay stated > >>>>>that Ernst Zundel should not > >>>>>have the right of free speech? > > >>>>Any attention paid to McVay's activities and his > >>>>allegiance to B'Nai B'rith will show how he aggresively > >>>>seeks to silence the opposition using what he > >>>>calls "hate speech" laws existent in Canada. > > >>>>Just use the following key words at DejaNews: > >>>>ZUNDEL McVAY FREE SPEECH and you will see much! > >>>>or do a search on GROSVENOR McVAY FREE SPEECH > >>>>and you will find such gems as: > > >>>>http://x10.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=315519835 > >>>>Subject: Re: Free Speech > >>>>From: kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC) > >>>>Date: 1998/01/13 > >>>> > >>>>In article <34bab636.2890382@news.interlog.com>, > >>>>Sheila Paterson <shepat@//REMOVETHIS//interlog.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>[snip] > > >>>>>Everyone has the right to free speech no matter how > >>>>>obnoxious,offensive, fascist or boring. > >>>>>What one doesn't have is the right to > >>>>>keep someone from speaking. > > >>>>Although many here would argue the point, the > >>>>statements above are notcorrect for Canada, > >>>>which does not have the protection of the American > >>>>First Amendment. > > >>>>In short, in accordance with recent Supreme Court > >>>>of Canada findings, there are acceptable abridgments > >>>>to Canadian Charter rights to free speech. > > >>>><<SNIPPING>> > > >>>> -----END OF ARTICLE------ > > >>>>http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=342508652 > >>>>http://x3.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=340569637 > >>>>Subject: Supreme Court upholds defamatory libel law > >>>>From: kmcvay@nizkor.org (Kenneth McVay OBC) > > >>>>>>You just don't pay attention. They want Zundel in prison for > mere words! > > >>>>>Note that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie is repeating his non-answer. > > >>>>>When and where has Nizkor stated they 'want Zundel in prison', > >>>>>O Gutless One? > > >>>>http://x4.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=157567242 > >>>>Subject: Ernst Zundel, threat to Canada's national security? > >>>>From: kmcvay@nizkor.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay OBC) > > >>>>>McVay on CBC: > >>>>>"I did at that time approve [of] Canadian actions against > >>>>>Zundel against Keegstra, ah it was sort of a gut reaction > >>>>>because they offended me so deeply I said good shut > >>>>> them up put them in jail do what ever it takes, > >>>>>...no free speech." > > >>>>Care to deny the above now Georg? DejaNews is filled with such! > >>>>I'll bet that you really approve of Socialist Canada's "free > speech" > >>>>too. > >>>> Billy Bob > >>>>>JGB > > >>One must wonder, did faggot Oyvay get fired from the > >>US military for being a child molester? > > >>Is that why nazikor so strongly defended the Synagogue > >>Cantor in Halifax, convicted of distributing KIDDIE PORN? > > >>Is Oyvay also under investigation by Interpol, > >>for being involved in kiddie porn?? > Reposted by:KenGayGoy@zhid.fags.R.us.88 > Telephone nights to discuss: 408-773-0984, > or Yale at: 610-435-9820
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 104294,4d428d30092e08cc,start X-Google-Attributes: gid104294,public From: Widow@wol.be (Anonymous remailer) Subject: ZHIDS=KIDDIE PORN; Now Same Law for Whites? Date: 2000/01/19 Message-ID: <20000119080941.SAPG7821.pop01@ballie.customer.chello.be> X-Deja-AN: 574598910 Organization: mail2news@zedz.net Comments: *This message did not originate from the above address. It was * *automatically remailed by one or more anonymous mail services.* *Please report problems or inappropriate use to this address: * *Remailer Operator: WidowAdmin@nym.alias.net * Widow-Remailer * X-Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@zedz.net Newsgroups: can.gov.general X-Remailer-Contact: WidowAdmin@nym.alias.net