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B'nai B'rith Helping Organization Which Keeps Files on Private Citizen

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> From: jeff_brown@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown)
> Subject: The cockroach named Bradbury keeps on tap-dancing
> Date: 16 Sep 1999 14:10:06 -0500
> Message-ID: <jeff_brown-1609991513050001@10.0.0.2>

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On 16-Sep-1999, jeff_brown@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown) wrote:

> Now, we all know that Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie's primary tactics are (1)
> lies and (2) libel -- not necessarily in that order. 

From the completely documented archival evidence below you are shown to be a LIAR when you claimed: "The organization in question does not keep files on private citizens." The organization for which Jeffrey schills for is Nizkor. And speaking of libel just look at what the organization does that "does not keep files on private citizens" just below. 

>This is just one more  piece of evidence to add to the pile. 
> I'm going to right on shoving this proof of his dishonesty in his face.

The dishonesty is yours. You lied and it is documented.
We all know that Nizkor also has B'nai B'rith as a liason for monetary contributions too! What can be said of a religious organization that acts as a money handler for a group that keeps files on private citizens and makes public staements which libels them? Remember these are NOT public figures Nizkor libels but private citizens.

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Proof that Nizkor and B'nai B'rith are allied in monetary contributions:
[(September 16, 1999) Straight from Nizkor's very own website]
http://www.nizkor.org/league-donation.html

The Nizkor Project is pleased to announce its cooperative affiliation with the League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada. The League is a national volunteer organization dedicated to combatting antisemitism, racism and bigotry, and to promoting human rights for all Canadians. 

 Please print this form and send to: 

The Nizkor Project 
c/o The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada 
15 Hove Street 
Toronto, Ontario M3H 4Y8 

Name:________________________________________ 
Street Address:________________________________________________ 
City_________________State/Province__________Postal Code_______ 
E-Mail Address:_________________________________ 
Amount Enclosed: $___________ 

Please make your donations payable to "The League for Human Rights of B'nai Brith Canada," and add the words "Nizkor Trust Fund" to the cheque's memo section. A portion of amounts donated to the Trust Fund is used to build the Nizkor Endowment Fund. If you prefer that all of your donation be invested for Nizkor's future needs, please earmark your cheque or draft with the notation 'For The Nizkor Endowment Fund Only. (All bequests should be to the 'Nizkor Endowment Fund, Care of The League for Human Right
s of B'nai Brith Canada'.) 

Donations over $10.00 will receive a Canadian tax receipt. [#0235903-43-13] 

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Well lo and behold- the Canadian Gov't will give you a tax receipt if you financially support an organization that keeps files on private citizens. Looks like Neo-Bolshevism to me. The whole lot should be horse-whipped, tarred and feathered, and run out of town at the ends of pitch forks! 
 
> Does it feel good to have proven yourself to be a lying coward yet again,
> Scottie?

You're a legend in your own mind Jeffrey. Why do you have to lie about Nizkor and them keeping files on private citizens?
 
> JGB

Jeffrey G. Brown has previously accused:
>>> >   2) Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie, of course, is all for digging up private
>>> > details on _you_, if he disagrees with your politics or opinions. 

>>Sounds like Nizkor keeping files on people! Care to deny an
>>organization that you have allied with in the past does not keep files
>>on private citizens?

Still sounds like Nizhor!

>Nope. I agree with you completely on this one, O Gutless One. The
>organization in question does not keep files on private citizens.

How do you explain all the files Nizkor has on Matt Giwer and others for example? Since when is Matt Giwer a public person such as a politician or elected official instead of a private citizen? Care to wriggle on this awhile hypocrite? It's a post by your fellow KGB pal- Yale Edeiken! Is he lying now?

http://x6.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=265735411
"Re: Why Does Nizkor Archive Posts In This Newsgroup?"
 Yale F. Edeiken <yawen@enter.net> 1997/08/18

>   "Anthony Sabatini" <anthonys@infobahnos.com> writes:
>  Brian Harmon <brainh@itsa.ucsf.edu> wrote in article

>  > Hunh, i dunno about that.
 
>  > I went to 
 
>  > http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/s/sabatini.anthony/1997
 
>  > And found what looks like an archive of all your postings for the month
>  > of January, between Jan 4 and 16. (Jan 16 was the last update).
  
>  That files does not contain all of my posts in that time frame.
  
>  > Same goes for Matt Giwer, at:
 
>  > http://www2.ca.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt/1996
 
>  > There is a listing of what looks like all of Matt Giwer's postings 
>  > for 1996, with a different file for each month.
  
>  "What *looks like* all of" (emphasis mine)? Why don't you ask Jamie McCarthy or
>  Ken McVay about this? Ask either of them if the Shofar archives contain all of
>  a person's posts or merely selected ones? A while ago, it was exclusively Ken
>  McVay who chose what posts went in there. Presumably Jamie McCarthy took that
>  responsibility when he became Director of Operations.

	I have asked them.  The Shofar Archives contain *ALL* posts of the person.  The only selection was of the people to be archived.  I checked with the specific intent of using those archives in litigation so I was very specific in getting that information.  You are blowing smoke. 

	[rest snipped to make posting possible]

	--YFE�

	~~End of DejaNews Archive~~

How about this one Jeffrey? Care to still be in a state of DENIAL that Nizkor keeps files on PRIVATE CITIZENS? From the director of Nizhor himself:

http://x1.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=369347816
"Re: Holocaust denial and not stepping in piles of giwer"

In article <6ntibq$cum$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,  <midtowng@slip.net> wrote:

[tampa trollbait snipped]

>I suggest you learn some history.

Mr. Giwer is, as far as I can determine, a troller whose only interest is in causing fights.  While he can sound superficially plausible, he has lied about what has been said in exchanges (while accusing others of lying), refused to document claims, pretended not to see posts which contain documented refutation of his claims (even when they have been emailed to him), engaged in actual libel, and generally conducted himself with such complete lack of intellectual and factual integrity that there seems to 
be no point in taking the time to read and respond.  For detailed and documented evidence of this, please refer to:
http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/g/giwer-matt
http://www.nizkor.org/encouragements/giwer.html
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/people/g/giwer.matt 

Mr. Giwer has no interest in history, or anything else, excepting perhaps a bottle of cheap wine. His sole interest is in attracting attention, and he will say anything at all to do that, no matter how disgusting or vile.

Note how carefully Mr. Giwer avoids alt.revisionism, where he was trounced so badly, and so roundly ignored, that he had to falsify his userid daily to get around internet KILL files. If he had an interest in history, it was never demonstrated in alt.revisionism. There is only one way to deal with trolls, and that is to ignore them.

--
The Nizkor Project-----------------------http://www.nizkor.org
Ken McVay, Director.             http://www.nizkor.org/~kmcvay
       Nizkor Survey: http://www.nizkor.org/survey/

            ~~End of DejaNews Archive and Jeffrey's Lie!~~�

Looks libelous and slanderous as well. 

Remember Jeffrey G. Brown saying exactly in reference to Nizkor:
"The organization in question does not keep files on private citizens."
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From: jeff_brown@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown)
Subject: Just Think - Poor Ol' Gutless Scottie still doesn't understand what he said
Date: 19 Dec 1998 00:00:00 GMT
Message-ID: <jeff_brown-1912982105450001@excelsior-691.fuse.net>
References: <3679781d.0@news3.enter.net> <78ff94f2bfc81e5212c57e628f396e2f@anonymous.poster>
Organization: none
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

In article <78ff94f2bfc81e5212c57e628f396e2f@anonymous.poster>, Scott
"beat you to a bloody pulp" Bradbury (sonnyboy@flash.net), whimpering from
underneath his "Secret Squirrel <anon@squirrel.owl.de>" sock puppet,
wrote:

>{jeff_brown@bigfoot.com (Jeffrey G. Brown)17 Dec 1998 20:50:07 -0500
><jeff_brown-1712982050080001@sdn-ar-002ohcincp075.dialsprint.net>
>wrote: "The organization (Nizkor) in question does not keep files
>on private citizens."}

That's right, Scottie. I did say that. I said that in the course of
declining to deny _your_ assertion that Nizkor doesn't keep files on
private citizens. You, naturally, lack the guts to include that
inconvenient fact:

   >Sounds like Nizkor keeping files on people! Care to deny an
   >organization that you have allied with in the past does not keep files
   >on private citizens?

   Nope. I agree with you completely on this one, O Gutless One. The
   organization in question does not keep files on private citizens.

(How does Jeffrey explain the post by Ken McVay just above? Tavish 9/16/99)

        -- <http://x7.dejanews.com/getdoc.xp?AN=423479086>

JGB

				

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