🚀 go-pugleaf

RetroBBS NetNews Server

Inspired by RockSolid Light RIP Retro Guy

Article View: can.gov.general
Article #671

Re: Same shit, different flies

#671
From: Paul Gill
Date: Mon, 18 Dec 1995 00:00
98 lines
4944 bytes
jim@crystalcntrl.com wrote:
: I have voted at times for all three political parties, however I have

Then you have perpetuated the "same shit, different flies" mentality.

I assume you mean the politicians are the flies and the shit is
the business of governing the Great Province of Ontario.

What a loyalist you are.

: usually been frustrated by the foolish tactics being used by both sides.
: It is particularly frustrating to watch a majority government such as we
: now have in both Ottawa and Queens Park. 

Majority governments get things done.

: 
:  When I watch the cabinet ministers and premier or prime minister give
: some smart ass reply to a very appropriate question I feel like calling
: them and saying Hey you F--ing idiot, we are paying you good money to do
: your job, get on with it.  
: 

And later, you will get a visit from the OPP and/or RCMP to check your
mental health history and whether or not you own a firearm.

: Can you imagine a senior officer in a corporation giving such flippant
: and discurtious remarks to its share holders. He would be out of there
: much faster than he/she  got in. We are now back to having the same type
: of government in Ontario and Ottawa as we had with Trudeau and Mulroney.
: 
Trudeau and Mulroney were Great Canadian Leaders, not unlike Bill Gates
and Lou Gerstner.

: 
: Previous to the past two weeks I looked at the prime minister as a bad
: box of Trudeau recyclables. After the actions of the past two weeks I am
: wondering if he is even of recyclable quality.

And after three days Jean rose again, according to the scriptures, and 
sitteth at the right hand of Pierre, from whence He shall come again
to judge both the Quick and The Dead (with apologies to Jerry Garcia)

: 
: It is amazing how much the Harris people have changed since they were in
: opposition.  I don't care about the bills they pass or plan to pass.

You care enough to rant about The Visionary Leader. Perhaps a round
of golf might square things away between you two?

: What frustrates me is the assumption they make, of their supporters, and
: other, that everyone in the province should blindly follow them with our
: eyes closed.  If we wanted to do this we would be back benchers in
: either Ottawa or Queens Park.

They are the elected leaders. The system works.

: 
: These people cannot seem to get the message that the citizens of this
: country want parliaments at all levels to act responsibly and that we
: are disgusted with the childish games that are being played in the name
: of party politics. The parties had their chance to play childish games
: during the election campaigns. We now expect them to act responsibly and
: govern in a  busines like fashion. If they don't take the job given to
: them seriously why are they there?

Good pay and benefits.

: 
: The government of Ontario was elected because we were sick of the
: garbage going on over the past 10 years. If they canot understand this
: they should leave the table in their subsidized cafeteria and get out to
: talk to the people in their ridings.

Why do you think these people got themselves elected anyway? Because they
_hate_ living in Toronto? Or would they rather remain in Sudbury?

: 
: When a member of the opposition or third party asks them how they are
: going to solve a problem I don't expect to hear childish garbage such as
: "we can't do any worse than your party". I want to hear an intelligent,
: well thought out reply to the question. This sure as hell is not what we
: are seeing now in either house.

Oh come on now, don't skirt around the issue.

: 
: To quote a person I know who immigrated from Europe to Canada, after
: working in many industries in Europe. I asked him if he found much
: difference working in Canada. 
: 
: His reply seems only too appropriate for our new governments "Same shit,
: different flies."
: 
: Best regards
: Jim  <----There ain't no flies on him

NOT
Technical Details
Message-ID: <4b31lc$fc2@news4.digex.net>
Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mail
References: <4b01qv$1ma@sam.inforamp.net>

Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit
X-Google-Thread: fc3d0,b68bde4770266327
X-Google-Attributes: gidfc3d0,public
X-Google-Thread: 104294,b68bde4770266327
X-Google-Attributes: gid104294,public
X-Google-Thread: fb374,82ed3f3e9fb98d97,start
X-Google-Attributes: gidfb374,public
X-Google-Thread: 10643c,b68bde4770266327
X-Google-Attributes: gid10643c,public
X-Google-Thread: 1046d3,82ed3f3e9fb98d97,start
X-Google-Attributes: gid1046d3,public
From: pgill@access5.digex.net (Paul Gill)
Subject: Re: Same shit, different flies
Date: 1995/12/18
Message-ID: <4b31lc$fc2@news4.digex.net>
X-Deja-AN: 122193646
references: <4b01qv$1ma@sam.inforamp.net>
organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
followup-to: can.gov.general,ont.general,tor.general,can.politics,soc.culture.canada
newsgroups: can.gov.general,ont.general,tor.general,can.politics,soc.culture.canada