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Re: Bell Canada Agrees to Work With ISPs to Resolve Centrex Dispute

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From: hubemar
Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 00:00
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In article <ragnaroek1995Nov20.220114.21557@news2.compulink.com>,
   wolfmstr@idirect.com (John A. Nemanic) wrote:
>Monday November 20th/1995 6:11pm
>
>To the Internet Community:
>
>This evening, Bell Canada faxed the following letter to Internet Direct 
>Canada Inc.:
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Bell Canada Letterhead
>
>From:
>
>D.H.(Don) Morrison
>Group Vice President 
>Local Marketing and Sales 
>
>1995 11 20
>
>Mr. John Epstein
>Passport Online
>
>Mr. John A. Nemanic
>President
>Internet Direct Canada Inc.
>
>Mr. Lorien Gabel
>Vice-President
>Interlog
>
>
>Dear John, John and Lorien:
>
>I promised that I would get back to you today. I apologize that it is late 
>in the day. but nonetheless I want to thank you again for the meeting on
>Friday. I want to let you know that we will work with the CRTC to help
>them understand that Bell Canada does not consider the existing Centrex
>tariff nor the ISAL tariff to apply to the ISP application. Secondly. that 
>Bell Canada proposes to continue applying Centrex III rates for new and
>existing services until a new alternative is developed.
>
>To that end we would sincerely appreciate your help if you could join us
>to work on the development of new alternatives to be filed with the CRTC
>by November 30th. We will be in touch to schedule a time convenient for
>you. Once again, thank you for your co-operation.
>
>Yours sincerely,
>
>D.H.(Don) Morrison
>Group Vice President 


The ISP won the first round. The Centrex rate will still be used
when ordering lines from Bell. But two more issues where mentioned
in posting from various ISPs and they don't seem to have been considered
in the complaint filed to the CRTC:

1) The installation cost. Some ISP mentioned that they had to pay in excess of
$100,000 for installating 200 lines or so in their facilities. This is
ridiculous, no ISPs should put up with Bell position of having 
the ISPs pay for all of the construction cost. No wonder so many small ISPs
are having problems expanding. With costs like that! What does RISC plan to do 
about this. Will you try to fight this also ?

2) T1 tariffs. The amount charged by Bell is simply ridiculous. 

I would also like to point out that Bell said that they agree that a new 
service should be created for ISPs but they also said that the Centrex rate if 
$23 is too low. So watch out. Bell will certainly try to charge much higher 
rate than the Centrex tariff. I would guess that they were caught by surprise
by your initiative and they are probably trying to buy some time to bring a
300-page reports to the CRTC explaining why ISPs put such a burden on the
phone network.



Mario
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From: hubemar@magi.com
Subject: Re: Bell Canada Agrees to Work With ISPs to Resolve Centrex Dispute
Date: 1995/11/24
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