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Re: CIPS is *not* for its members

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From: Dennis Miller
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:00
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I really don't want to do battle but if we're quoting, it
shouldn't be out of context.

Starting with the quote below and including the complete
section following:


The
state law is above the by-laws of the society, and if the
state law empowers members of all corporations to appoint
proxies to vote at all business meetings, no
by-laws of an incorporated secret society could prevent
non-members holding proxies from attending and voting at all
business meetings of the society. This should
not be the case. With stock corporations it does no harm,
because all the business is done by directors, and no
proxies are allowed in their meetings, and no one can
be present without their consent. But in many societies of
the kind mentioned the business is transacted in meetings
attended by none but members, and unlimited
proxies would be a serious interference with their work. If
the state law requires proxy voting in all corporations, it
should be limited to the election of officers,
including directors, and also the proxies should be required
to be held by members of the corporation in all
organizations whose primary object is not pecuniary
profit.

Dennis Miller
dennis.miller@home.com or
dennis.miller@cgi.ca or
dmiller@cips.ca
WEB: http://members.home.net/dennis.miller/

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CIPS General Discussion List
> [mailto:CIPS-L@hermes.csd.unb.ca]On
> Behalf Of Tom Ruta
> Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:31 PM
> To: CIPS-L@hermes.csd.unb.ca
> Subject: Re: CIPS is *not* for its members
>
>
> john_beamish@my-dejanews.com wrote:
>
> ...
> >Please cite the relevant sections of the CIPS
> Constitution which have closed
> >the meeting to non-members who are in possession
> of a valid proxy. ...
>
> I don't think one exists.  At least not in  my copy or on
> the web.
>
> This little snippet might be considered on point (from
> Robert's)
>
> "The state law is above the by-laws of the society, and if
> the state law empowers members of all corporations to
> appoint proxies to vote at all business meetings,
> no by-laws
> of an incorporated secret society could prevent
> non-members
> holding proxies from attending and voting at all business
> meetings of the society."
>
> IIRC, there is nothing in the societies act to prevent
> proxies, is there?
>
> Gives one pause, don't it?
>
> Tom
>
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Date: 1999/02/18
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