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Article #174Member comments on sgm
From: Michael J. MacDonald
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:00
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 1999 00:00
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I would like to have the following posted as a membership comment on the SGM it is a extract from a message sent to cips-l last year. I think both sides need to understand that whenever there is a split such as this, each side is trying to do the "RIGHT" thing. I'm sure that from the board perspective they have done the "right thing for CIPS" and since they have done the "right" thing there is nothing to "fix". I'm sure that Steve was trying to do the "right thing for CIPS" and ended up in the can for it. Both sides of this mess are TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING. The only way we can get out of this without destroying CIPS for the other side (no matter what side you are on), is to build a common perspective and move forward. It will do NO good to find BLAME. If the board and Steve had have been able to recognize this difference of perspective and NEGOTIATED a set of areas to agree and disagree we would probably not be in this mess. Disagreement is healthy! Unfortunately it looks like both the board and Steve drew so many lines in the sand that they couldn't or wouldn't move to a new perspective. There are times when even reasonable people have to draw a line in the sand. From where I sit, neither side will ever be a winner in this mess.Either side going for a 100% win may succeed and kill CIPS in the process. Both sides have lost a great deal of respect from members and would be members. We have already lost members because of it. I'm sure it has been extremely difficult for the board and steve, I can't see any of them being particularly interested in doing anything for CIPS after this. AND THAT IS A BIG LOSS FOR CIPS. I hope that the board and Steve understand that the SGM call is method for building a least loss consensus position. Assuming there is enough votes for the SGM. What can happen at the SGM? What if there are enough votes to support motion one and the membership instructs the board to reinstate steve? I ask that the board does not consider this a loss but as an opportunity to move forward in building a new perspective for CIPS. This is not a win for steve either. The motion 2 committee if supported may end up asking for his resignation. What if there is not sufficient support for motion one and steve is not reinstated to the board? I ask Steve and his supporters not to consider this as a loss but as starting position for building a new energy and direction for change within cips. This is not a win for the board either. Many members will see this as a reason to give up on cips, and that will be a big loss for CIPS. What if there is sufficient support for motion one and the board rejects the wishes of the membership? It would be a very bad idea. What if there is enough support for the motion 2 committee? This is neither a win or a loss for both sides. This is an opportunity to understand what happen and to move forward, and to ensure this does not happen again in the future. What if there is not enough support for the motion 2 committee? This I think IS a great loss for cips. If we don't understand what happened and the reasons for what happened CIPS will be divided forever. How can we make sure the questions outstanding will not remain to fester and erupt again and again. What happens if motion 3 is supported? CIPS is out of pocket for steve's lawyer's fees. What happens if motion 3 is not supported? Steve is out of pocket for his lawyers fees. I would have loved to spent my last year in the business watching CIPS grow from where I left rather than trying to rescue it from destruction. Steve Gallinger, Andrew Patterson and I sat around a campfire in NS last year and spent a long late night talking about if CIPS was worth the fight. If CIPS is the voice and champion of the IT profession it was, but it had to be representing the views of the membership as a bottom up not a top down organization. If it was going to be the voice and champion it has to listen to the members, that was my line in the sand. Mike
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f56b1,ac624dfb40b9bce7,start X-Google-Attributes: gidf56b1,public From: "Michael J. MacDonald" <mjmacdon@juliet.stfx.ca> Subject: Member comments on sgm Date: 1999/02/18 Message-ID: <19990218.164923.27764@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> X-Deja-AN: 445824490 Sender: daemon@unb.ca Organization: UofNB News Gateway, Fredericton, CANADA Reply-To: CIPS General Discussion List <CIPS-L@LISTSERV.UNB.CA> Newsgroups: can.org.cips