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Stephen -

I'd like to address some of the points you raised in your note (see below).

If you do not already have your ISP, please let me know if I can be of any
help in your getting it.  I don't believe you should be disadvantaged in
any way by graduating from a program before it was accredited.

Sincerely,  Ken Chapman.

On Fri, 15 Dec 1995, Stephen Simm wrote:

> I have the right degree, but I got it a few years before CIPS certified
> that program.  By the time CIPS certified it the requirements for that
> degree were less demanding than the requirements that were in place when
> I took the degree.  My education has been rounded down to the
> you-don't-have-the-right-degree category.

In the academic qualifications review process for the ISP, acquired
degrees are not "rounded down" to anything.  If you graduated from an
accredited program - you are given full credit.  If you graduated from a
program prior to its accreditation (as I did), then in the certification
application, you have to specify the CS courses you took to receive your
degree.  These courses are assessed in their own right, and not on the
basis of some future reduced graduation requirement for the program you
were in.

> So... I see the same people with the same degree as mine (only it was
> easier for them to obtain it) getting certified with less experience
> than me.  This experience has left a bad taste in my mouth.

By your description, I presume the reduced experience requirement (by 1
year) your associates had is reflective of their having graduated from an
accredited program.  Personally, I am pleased that CIPS is able to offer
the reduced experience requirement for graduates of accredited programs.
If my presumption is incorrect and there are other factors at play here,
please let me know.

> I suppose this is a you've-fallen-between-the-cracks experience.  It does
> not help me to form any sense of professional solidarity, which I believe
> is one of the goals of CIPS, and a laudable one too.

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> Stephen Simm, sasimm@is.dal.ca
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I believe it is important to maintain the distinction between the
experience requirements for graduates of accredited vs non-accredited
programs, but I am willing to listen to any suggestions you might have.

All the best,  Ken.

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