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Article #35Re: The vote: What the numbers will tell me
From: Jon Nightingale
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:00
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 00:00
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On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, Rick Dondo wrote: <snip> > IMHO, if we fail to engage a significant majority of the membership in a > meaningful debate on the subject, then the Society is not serving its' > stated purpose. IMHO, if votes are cast by less than two-thirds of the > members (roughly 4600 by my calculations), then I will indeed wonder whether > we will ever succeed in engaging them in any Society activities. That, IMHO, > would seal the decision for me as to my own future in it. > Some thoughtful ideas here, thanks for the message. While a large voting turn-out would be admirable, I suspect it will be far lower than this. Over many years in CIPS (including several at the national level where I was responsible for membership promotion) I've observed that CIPS has always had a large silent majority. It has struck me as somewhat curious (I'm the type who likes to be actively involved) but in talking to folks in other organizations this pattern is quite common. For example, we currently have around 600 members in CIPS Vancouver section, but we draw less than 100 to the average dinner meeting. Even assuming some people only attend one or two events less than half the local membership ever comes out to an event. This has been the pattern for the 20+ years I've been in CIPS. (I don't know the actual numbers but I'd be willing to bet that not much more than 10% of the membership actually voted in the national elections last year.) I've long since given up trying to figure out why there is such a large percentage who don't participate, especially after finding out that the CIPS experience is the same for a whole lot of other organizations. We've tried various means to engage these folks over the years without much success. From my perspective we are happy to have them - they boost our numbers and we can certainly use the membership revenues. I suspect that for a lot of these people the current situation is, if anything, a passing curiosity. So I would suggest that trying to read too much into voting numbers is not terribly productive or indicative of the health of the society. __________________________________________________________________ Jon Nightingale, I.S.P. | Internet: night@cips.ca Phone : 604-263-8806 | Fax: 604-263-8827
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f56b1,bd5a0badddd1ba22 X-Google-Attributes: gidf56b1,public From: Jon Nightingale <night@ucs.ubc.ca> Subject: Re: The vote: What the numbers will tell me Date: 1999/02/24 Message-ID: <19990224.070537.23859@sol.sun.csd.unb.ca> X-Deja-AN: 447848826 Sender: daemon@unb.ca Organization: UofNB News Gateway, Fredericton, CANADA Reply-To: CIPS General Discussion List <CIPS-L@LISTSERV.UNB.CA> Newsgroups: can.org.cips