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Article #86Re: Ethanol, or E10 - it will never be 'mates' with boats
From: Ceri Thomas
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:09
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:09
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA3F5A.90AEC5E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The ONLY fuel for cars commercially is ETHANOL, whether it be grain, = animal/fossil based or not. Methanol is not in large enough production = so it's chiefly used in medicine, funny cars and formula one cars. The = cost of methanol is 6 times that of ethonal at present. If you doubt the = price, go and buy some. A litre at present costs around $6.00. Shell = V-Power contains no DRY grain additives. The reason is their other fuel = dries out seals, gaskets and eats injectors. After nearly 260 million in = payouts to vehicle damages, they now put out their OLD fuel and call it = new, just like Coke Classic scam, if your old enough to remember. Shell = isn't the 5th largest corporate entity on Earth for given away ANYTHING. = The are one of the greediest companies with tons a poor ethical = practices. You clearly need to get your facts right, before posting = bullshit. Not to mention ALL regular unleaded fuel sold in Canada and = the USA must be the exact same molecule under the law. Only mid grade or = premium can have additives and what fool is filling his boat with 200 = gallons of premium unleaded? The cost would be unreal. "MyTravels" <MyTravels@Rogers.com> wrote in message = news:h9nmq5$df2$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... Do you have corn in gas tank ... probably? =20 What is everybody doing with their boats for winter storage? It seems = there are a few options:=20 - Make sure there is no ethanol in your gas (Shell says their V-power = gas is ethanol free) - Drain your gas tank before storing - Ignore the fact and hope for the best =20 Has any one used the new "Marine Formula STA-BIL Ethanol Treatment"? Can anyone find it? http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx =20 I have been told (translated: I don't have any facts) that it costs = more to get the corn out of the fields and processed than what the = farmers are getting thus the government is subsidizing the production of = ethanol. =20 Below is a link to an article describing the downfall factors of = ethanol for boaters. http://www.sail-world.com/news_printerfriendly.cfm?Nid=3D61595 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA3F5A.90AEC5E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML xmlns:o =3D "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Diso-8859-1"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.16890" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The ONLY fuel for cars commercially is = ETHANOL,=20 whether it be grain, animal/fossil based or not. Methanol is not in = large enough=20 production so it's chiefly used in medicine, funny cars and = formula=20 one cars. The cost of methanol is 6 times that of ethonal at present. If = you=20 doubt the price, go and buy some. A litre at present costs around $6.00. = Shell=20 V-Power contains no DRY grain additives. The reason is their other fuel = dries=20 out seals, gaskets and eats injectors. After nearly 260 million in = payouts to=20 vehicle damages, they now put out their OLD fuel and call it new, just = like Coke=20 Classic scam, if your old enough to remember. Shell isn't the 5th = largest=20 corporate entity on Earth for given away ANYTHING. The are one of the = greediest=20 companies with tons a poor ethical practices. You clearly need to get = your facts=20 right, before posting bullshit. Not to mention ALL regular unleaded fuel = sold in=20 Canada and the USA must be the exact same molecule under the law. Only = mid grade=20 or premium can have additives and what fool is filling his boat with 200 = gallons=20 of premium unleaded? The cost would be unreal.</FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV>"MyTravels" <<A=20 href=3D"mailto:MyTravels@Rogers.com">MyTravels@Rogers.com</A>> = wrote in=20 message <A=20 = href=3D"news:h9nmq5$df2$1@theodyn.ncf.ca">news:h9nmq5$df2$1@theodyn.ncf.c= a</A>...</DIV> <DIV> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D2>Do you have corn in gas tank ... = probably?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>What is=20 everybody doing with their boats for winter storage? It seems there = are a few=20 options: </FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>- Make=20 sure there is no ethanol in your gas (Shell says their V-power gas is = ethanol=20 free)</FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>- Drain=20 your gas tank before storing</FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>-=20 Ignore the fact and hope for the best</FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2> </FONT></o:p></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>Has any=20 one used the new =93Marine Formula STA-BIL Ethanol = Treatment=94?</FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D2>Can anyone find it?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A=20 href=3D"http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx"><FONT = face=3DArial=20 = size=3D2>http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx</FONT></A></= P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2> </FONT></o:p></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2>I have=20 been told (<EM>translated: I don=92t have any facts</EM>) that it = costs more to=20 get the corn out of the fields and processed than what the farmers are = getting=20 thus the government is subsidizing the production of = ethanol.</FONT></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT = face=3DArial=20 size=3D2> </FONT></o:p></P> <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT = face=3DArial><FONT=20 size=3D2>Below is a link to an article describing the downfall factors = of=20 ethanol for boaters.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P></DIV> <DIV><A=20 = href=3D"http://www.sail-world.com/news_printerfriendly.cfm?Nid=3D61595"><= FONT=20 face=3DArial=20 = size=3D2>http://www.sail-world.com/news_printerfriendly.cfm?Nid=3D61595</= FONT></A></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial = size=3D2></FONT> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CA3F5A.90AEC5E0--
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