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Re: Ethanol, or E10 - it will never be 'mates' with boats

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From: Ceri Thomas
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 2009 16:09
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The ONLY fuel for cars commercially is ETHANOL, whether it be grain, =
animal/fossil based or not. Methanol is not in large enough production =
so it's chiefly used in medicine, funny cars and formula one cars. The =
cost of methanol is 6 times that of ethonal at present. If you doubt the =
price, go and buy some. A litre at present costs around $6.00. Shell =
V-Power contains no DRY grain additives. The reason is their other fuel =
dries out seals, gaskets and eats injectors. After nearly 260 million in =
payouts to vehicle damages, they now put out their OLD fuel and call it =
new, just like Coke Classic scam, if your old enough to remember. Shell =
isn't the 5th largest corporate entity on Earth for given away ANYTHING. =
The are one of the greediest companies with tons a poor ethical =
practices. You clearly need to get your facts right, before posting =
bullshit. Not to mention ALL regular unleaded fuel sold in Canada and =
the USA must be the exact same molecule under the law. Only mid grade or =
premium can have additives and what fool is filling his boat with 200 =
gallons of premium unleaded? The cost would be unreal.
  "MyTravels" <MyTravels@Rogers.com> wrote in message =
news:h9nmq5$df2$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
  Do you have corn in gas tank ... probably?

  =20

  What is everybody doing with their boats for winter storage? It seems =
there are a few options:=20

  - Make sure there is no ethanol in your gas (Shell says their V-power =
gas is ethanol free)

  - Drain your gas tank before storing

  - Ignore the fact and hope for the best

  =20

  Has any one used the new "Marine Formula STA-BIL Ethanol Treatment"?

  Can anyone find it?

  http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx

  =20

  I have been told (translated: I don't have any facts) that it costs =
more to get the corn out of the fields and processed than what the =
farmers are getting thus the government is subsidizing the production of =
ethanol.

  =20

  Below is a link to an article describing the downfall factors of =
ethanol for boaters.

  http://www.sail-world.com/news_printerfriendly.cfm?Nid=3D61595

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>The ONLY fuel for cars commercially is =
ETHANOL,=20
whether it be grain, animal/fossil based or not. Methanol is not in =
large enough=20
production so it's chiefly used&nbsp;in medicine,&nbsp;funny cars and =
formula=20
one cars. The cost of methanol is 6 times that of ethonal at present. If =
you=20
doubt the price, go and buy some. A litre at present costs around $6.00. =
Shell=20
V-Power contains no DRY grain additives. The reason is their other fuel =
dries=20
out seals, gaskets and eats injectors. After nearly 260 million in =
payouts to=20
vehicle damages, they now put out their OLD fuel and call it new, just =
like Coke=20
Classic scam, if your old enough to remember. Shell isn't the 5th =
largest=20
corporate entity on Earth for given away ANYTHING. The are one of the =
greediest=20
companies with tons a poor ethical practices. You clearly need to get =
your facts=20
right, before posting bullshit. Not to mention ALL regular unleaded fuel =
sold in=20
Canada and the USA must be the exact same molecule under the law. Only =
mid grade=20
or premium can have additives and what fool is filling his boat with 200 =
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  <DIV>"MyTravels" &lt;<A=20
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wrote in=20
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
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  size=3D2>Do you have corn in gas tank ... =
probably?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>What is=20
  everybody doing with their boats for winter storage? It seems there =
are a few=20
  options: </FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>- Make=20
  sure there is no ethanol in your gas (Shell says their V-power gas is =
ethanol=20
  free)</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>- Drain=20
  your gas tank before storing</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>-=20
  Ignore the fact and hope for the best</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
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size=3D2>Has any=20
  one used the new =93Marine Formula STA-BIL Ethanol =
Treatment=94?</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
  size=3D2>Can anyone find it?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
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size=3D2>http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx</FONT></A></=
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  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3DArial =
size=3D2>I have=20
  been told (<EM>translated: I don=92t have any facts</EM>) that it =
costs more to=20
  get the corn out of the fields and processed than what the farmers are =
getting=20
  thus the government is subsidizing the production of =
ethanol.</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
  size=3D2>Below is a link to an article describing the downfall factors =
of=20
  ethanol for boaters.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P></DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
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