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Article #89Re: Ethanol, or E10 - it will never be 'mates' with boats
From: Ceri Thomas
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:39
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 07:39
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Well if you have one of those tiny outboard boats. Just drain the tanks =
into your car. If it's a full sized real boat, just leave her in the =
water, as the motion of the water keeps the fuel mixed and not =
separating which is what stabilizers claim to do (no evidence to date). =
In reality, it actually takes over 2 years for gasoline type fuels to =
separate. The oil companies claim 90 days, but knowing the physic of =
petroleum, that they are only trying to upsell fuel. At worst all you'll =
need is more methanol to suppress any water from condensation when you =
start her up, which stabilizers won't cure either. Lets face it, oil =
companies aren't very honest.
"MyTravels" <MyTravels@Rogers.com> wrote in message =
news:h9q3m8$ou$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
"Ceri Thomas" <cerit@shaw.ca> wrote in message =
news:yQLvm.752$S_4.396@newsfe23.iad...
Do you have a point here?? If so please say it!! Your post below say =
nothing and bounces around to way too many topics on gain enhanced =
ethanol.
"MyTravels" <MyTravels@Rogers.com> wrote in message =
news:h9nmq5$df2$1@theodyn.ncf.ca...
Do you have corn in gas tank ... probably?
=20
What is everybody doing with their boats for winter storage? It =
seems there are a few options:=20
- Make sure there is no ethanol in your gas (Shell says their =
V-power gas is ethanol free)
- Drain your gas tank before storing
- Ignore the fact and hope for the best
=20
Has any one used the new "Marine Formula STA-BIL Ethanol =
Treatment"?
Can anyone find it?
http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx
=20
I have been told (translated: I don't have any facts) that it =
costs more to get the corn out of the fields and processed than what the =
farmers are getting thus the government is subsidizing the production of =
ethanol.
=20
Below is a link to an article describing the downfall factors of =
ethanol for boaters.
http://www.sail-world.com/news_printerfriendly.cfm?Nid=3D61595
My questions are:
What is everybody doing with their boats for winter storage?
Has any one used the new "Marine Formula STA-BIL Ethanol =
Treatment"?
Can anyone find it? In the Ottawa area
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Well if you have one of those tiny =
outboard boats.=20
Just drain the tanks into your car. If it's a full sized real boat, just =
leave=20
her in the water, as the motion of the water keeps the fuel mixed and =
not=20
separating which is what stabilizers claim to do (no evidence to date). =
In=20
reality, it actually takes over 2 years for gasoline type fuels to =
separate. The=20
oil companies claim 90 days, but knowing the physic of petroleum, that =
they are=20
only trying to upsell fuel. At worst all you'll need is more methanol to =
suppress any water from condensation when you start her up, which =
stabilizers=20
won't cure either. Lets face it, oil companies aren't very =
honest.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Do you have a point here?? If so =
please say=20
it!! Your post below say nothing and bounces around to way too many =
topics=20
on gain enhanced ethanol.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>"MyTravels" <<A=20
href=3D"mailto:MyTravels@Rogers.com">MyTravels@Rogers.com</A>> =
wrote in=20
message <A=20
=
href=3D"news:h9nmq5$df2$1@theodyn.ncf.ca">news:h9nmq5$df2$1@theodyn.ncf.c=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D2>Do you have corn in gas tank ...=20
probably?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D2> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>What is everybody doing with their boats for winter =
storage? It=20
seems there are a few options: </FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>-=20
Make sure there is no ethanol in your gas (Shell says their =
V-power gas is=20
ethanol free)</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>-=20
Drain your gas tank before storing</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>-=20
Ignore the fact and hope for the best</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>Has=20
any one used the new =93Marine Formula STA-BIL Ethanol=20
Treatment=94?</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D2>Can anyone find it?<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><A=20
href=3D"http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2>http://www.goldeagle.com/brands/stabil/default.aspx</FONT></A></=
P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial size=3D2>I=20
have been told (<EM>translated: I don=92t have any facts</EM>) =
that it costs=20
more to get the corn out of the fields and processed than what the =
farmers=20
are getting thus the government is subsidizing the production of=20
ethanol.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D2>Below is a link to an article describing the downfall =
factors of=20
ethanol for boaters.<o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT></P></DIV>
<DIV><A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.sail-world.com/news_printerfriendly.cfm?Nid=3D61595"><=
FONT=20
face=3DArial=20
=
size=3D2>http://www.sail-world.com/news_printerfriendly.cfm?Nid=3D61595</=
FONT></A></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>My questions are:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>What is everybody doing with =
their boats=20
for winter storage?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
size=3D2>Has any one used the new =93Marine Formula STA-BIL =
Ethanol=20
Treatment=94?</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3DArial><FONT=20
size=3D2>Can anyone find it? <EM>In the Ottawa=20
=
area</EM></FONT></FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE><=
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